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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bostonvr6
What dealer are you #1 at, burlington, boston, or weston?

Burlington wanted 10-15K ADM for a C4 as of this weekend. i said no thanks.
Also, I think Burlington and Boston are the same company (Herb Chambers).
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shambler
I'd like to hear from folks that got an allocation in November or December or January (whichever the latest period was) and learn how many month after they got their allocation they expect to have the car.
3 months? 6 months? etc.
They are going to be guessing, just like you, until they have the car in hand given the supply chain situation, weather, dock worker strikes, etc.

I got my C2 about 3.5 months after order lock in September, including a 2 week production start delay, and extended delays at both the shipping and receiving ports.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nein Eleven
They are going to be guessing, just like you, until they have the car in hand given the supply chain situation, weather, dock worker strikes, etc.

I got my C2 about 3.5 months after order lock in September, including a 2 week production start delay, and extended delays at both the shipping and receiving ports.
I agree. It is all conjecture and life happens, but there appears to reasonable expectation of about 3-5 months after allocation.
I didn't do the math on all on the responses.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 07:17 PM
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Got fed up after being on a C2S list for 12 months and not moving anywhere. Found out the GTS list was much, much shorter. Took 2 months for allocation.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Shambler
I agree. It is all conjecture and life happens, but there appears to reasonable expectation of about 3-5 months after allocation.
I didn't do the math on all on the responses.
I received an allocation for a C2S Nov 18.

Production completed today. All dates 100% accurate up to now as originally projected.

Now I have a date of landing at the dealer from Feb 05 - March 30.

My SA says it will more then likely be here end of Feb. I am in Canada.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Taxjoc
I have you beat. I created a demand order on 11/6/21 for a Targa 4S at MSRP. Still waiting for my allocation for over 14 months now. I started at #5 on the list and as of three weeks ago I am now #2 on the list. I knew going in that Targas were not common and it would take a while, but 14 months is a long time.
Congrats! It is good to know that I am not the only one in this position. At this point, I just hope that I can get an allocation for a 994.2!
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by remington
Big delineator is ADM, if you are willing to put $20k ADM on the hood you can move to the front of the line for any non-GT 911 variant at many of the less scrupulous dealers. If you're after MSRP, it can vary a lot based on location, high demand areas being longer, but a Base/GTS/S/T allocation could be had in 3-18 months. IMO.
Well I can't imagine them building the GTS beyond this calendar year? Then we are into 992.2 territory or at least the split line when the change over starts to happen, then you're waiting forever till the 992.2 GTS comes out. Who knows what the Hell that will be, maybe Hybrid.

The video releases from the Ring show the 992.2 Turbo S e-hybrid making the rounds. The way it's moving around, I'm sure it's not optimized, but it moves like it's heavy as Hell.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 09:57 PM
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Demand order on 12/27/2021 for C2S @ MSRP
Received an available Allocation for a GTS on 12/2/2022
Freeze Date on 12/12/2022
Scheduled for production on 1/4/2023
Expected arrival at Jacksonville Port on 2/28/2023
First time Porsche owner, no trade in.

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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 10:35 PM
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Got GTS allocation from dealer on 5 Dec 2022 with freeze date 11 Feb 2023 and delivery date 7 April 2023. MSRP with no ADM (I have a 2020 992 C2S for trade-in) and I will be locking in everything tomorrow at dealer.
However I have been near the top of their GTS list for a while (got an allocation in May 2022 for 26 Aug 2022 delivery and turned it down 5 days before freeze date due to several options I wanted being kicked back with stop-orders).

For fun I asked about GT3 (which I don't want for my daily driver) and was told I would have to wait about 3 years (we did not discuss ADM). The two dealers I work with get at most 1 GT3 per month and already have 30-40 solid buyers on the waitlist ahead of me.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 10:41 AM
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(pertaining to a vanilla car)
Lets assume MY changeover with .2 updates to car follow past form and date/times.
So April 2023 the 992.2 is officially announced and the configurator is updated.
Next assumption, August is alleged factory holiday shutdown/re-tool.
Thus 2024 992.2 start rolling off line 3rd week of August, worst 9/1.

OK with those assumptions all validated, what monthly release batch would represent those first .2 cars?
Again using the dates of past scheduled quarterly allocation releases (months)
I am assuming May 2023 would be when I get the hopeful call from my dealer??
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ctdubl07
(pertaining to a vanilla car)
Lets assume MY changeover with .2 updates to car follow past form and date/times.
So April 2023 the 992.2 is officially announced and the configurator is updated.
Next assumption, August is alleged factory holiday shutdown/re-tool.
Thus 2024 992.2 start rolling off line 3rd week of August, worst 9/1.

OK with those assumptions all validated, what monthly release batch would represent those first .2 cars?
Again using the dates of past scheduled quarterly allocation releases (months)
I am assuming May 2023 would be when I get the hopeful call from my dealer??
I know these are assumptions, but I doubt the configurator will be updated to model year 2024 until around July 2023, even if the 992.2 is officially announced in April 2023.
Just based on a hunch and posts on this forum, I believe 992.1 cars will be built up until the end of July 2023.
I am not exactly sure what a "monthly release batch" means but I assume you mean when 992.2 cars are built and released for shipping to dealers. Based on my assumptions, I suspect the new 992.2 cars will be shipped in mid to late September 2023.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 11:38 AM
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I've been reading these forums for 2+ years and am jealous of all of you.

I'm like the worst new porsche customer of all-time - cash buyer, no prior relationship, no trade (current lease expires Aug 2023). The dealers closet to me have had zilch for inventory given the world we're in, and don't even bother taking a deposit for a waiting list. Higher volume dealers in Chicago have told me 2+ year wait, or a $15k-$30k ADM. I even asked about a taycan 4S and was told 18+ month wait.

Will probably try to figure out something used in 2023, but I don't see this ADM or high demand/long wait times changing anytime soon. Its probably easier to get a Rivian 1S or a Lucid than any non-SUV Porsche these days.

Never thought being lucky enough to buy a 992 would end up being a pain in the A@#! First world problems...I know.....
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Taxjoc
A free demand order at your next closest dealer!

Incidentally, I always wondered whether the model and number of options on the demand order made any difference. When I placed my Targa 4S demand order back in November 2021, the dealer placed the order for a Targa 4S but he chose the options and I don't know what he chose. Over time I began to wonder if a loaded Targa 4S might grab Porsche's attention and cause Porsche to send an allocation to my dealer more quickly as opposed to a Targa 4s with little to no options selected. I asked my dealer about this. He did not know but I sent him my Porsche code and he changed my demand order to reflect my actual options (and I can assure you those are the options I want, after all, I have only been on the configuator about a million times). I have $51,120 in options.
Doesn’t make a difference with Porsche… Porsche allocates the car to dealers, not based on demand orders. Some dealers have been requiring a certain option spend, because they make more money on a highly optioned car.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 03:51 PM
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@992Mirage Everything you said was my case exactly, down to the disappointment that once I finally had the means to buy something fun, I couldn't. However, you should investigate wait lists for all models you'd even remotely consider. I was surprised to find a huge C2S line but then only one for a GTS. I was in line over a year for a C2S with very little movement, but only 2 months for a GTS. Never would have guessed that.
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Old Jan 12, 2023 | 04:44 PM
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My timeline... 4 months, from allocation date to delivery day.

I placed an order on Feb 18, 2020 with a March 3 lock date for a 2020 C2S with about $28K in options. The pandemic shut down the factory for 3 weeks shortly thereafter, and my order was delayed only one month to the Washington, DC area. I took delivery June 16, 2020, just shy of 4 months from allocation date.


When I placed my order, I asked, "Do you have allocation for a C2S?" Porsche Tysons, VA said "Yes," so I said, "Can you meet a 6% discount?" They again said, "Yes," and so I gave them a deposit of $2,500 with my build code to start the order. Man, those were the days!

This was all as COVID was about to get serious, but before anything was shut down on the East Coast, and the world for that matter. I don't know of anyone getting discounts right now, but hopefully by the second half of this year we'll start to see things get a little more reasonable and at least get back much closer to MSRP for base cars. Time will tell...
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