Just heard a spokesman for Porsche NA say America accounts for 30% of 911 sales globally and if you look within that figure, 25% of 911 sales are in CA alone which on its own would be the world's 5th largest market. Wow.

 

Since the configurator updated in April of each of the last 3 years with the coming model year changes, Im going to return to my initial comment parameters
I believe May is when the second batch of allocations are offered (based upon calendar year), From respondents here it looks like 4 months from allocation to a confirmed delivery is possible.
So Im assuming one can hope that May 2023 is the release of first 2024 MY allocations and theyd be delivered in Sept.
Did this in fact happen for anyone?....obtain a May allocation and receive a next MY car early the following fall?

 

Allocation timelines for the coupes/cabs now appear to be 6-9 months, while Targas are still 12-18 months. I think things will move back to normal soon. Todays large Tesla price cuts show that auto demand in general is cratering. Tesla has a real time view of auto sales like no other automaker has, and their drastic price cuts are pretty telling for the industry as a whole. I wouldn't expect the return to 6% discounts in the short term, but availability without ADM will improve for non GT cars.

 

Said so many people here for the past year. I guess it depends on when "soon" is and what "normal" is.

 

Soon meaning in the next 6-9 months. Normal meaning you walk into your dealer and ask to order a car and you get an allocation after a month or two for a coupe/cab, 2-4 months for a Targa without being asked to pay an ADM, buy a watch, buy a used car first, buy additional services etc. From an ordering standing point basically how things were in 2019 and every year before that. As far as discounting I think we will see 2-3% discounting in late 2023 and the traditional 6% by mid to late 2024.

 

I think that is very optimistic thinking. If I had to make a wager, and I'm just speaking about Porsche, I'd bet things will stay as they are until 2024 at least-longer if the Russia-Ukraine war keeps going. I think Stuttgart is running around the clock trying to keep up with demand, we all know they're having all kinds of problems with suppliers, then throw in the Summer changeover and switch to the 992.2 and all the increased demand that will bring. No, I think everything will stay as is for this year. Sure there will be deals to be had here and there, but I think MSRP is the best anyone will get and I don't expect ADM's to go away in 2023.


I've been out all day and haven't had a chance to read up on today's news, but I'll add that Tesla's stock price has declined so much because they're not the major company in the electric car game any more and the competition has taken its toll.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

 

I'm with Smirnoff here. If anything, the allocation situation will continue trending marginally better throughout the year right up until the 992.2 changeover when 991 and 992.1 owners reignite demand and ADMs while Porsche struggles to make the updated cars. That is, unless everyone hates the all digital instrument cluster as much as me.

 

People have been posting here for the better part of the year that it will all turn. I guess eventually they have to be right.

 

Anyone thinking Porsche is going to catch up with its demand in the next 6 to 9 months is positively dreaming. 911 Discounts in 2023/24? Dealers won’t even come close to filling the desired allocations let alone entertain the thought of a 911 discount.

 

6~9 months is very long. Anything can happen. Check how much the stock market or even the used car market changes in a 6~9 window in the past. We are not talking about an increase in car deliveries in 6~9 months but allocations.

 

Many posters here have been raging against ADMs and erroneously predicting the "crash" in the market and the "return to MSRP" for quite some time. Over a year ago, Malibu predicted "I think we will be back to MSRP this year sometime" and "Supply is starting to catch up to demand across the industry...the ADMs will be a thing of the past by the summer."

The reality is that if you keep saying "things will change soon" for long enough, you have a very high likelihood of eventually being correct. Of course, that does not actually increase the accuracy of those original statements.

 

Demand order put in with 10k down on February 1st 2021 as number 1 on the list for a C4S. Still waiting for an allocation. That dealer has received zero C4S allocations since late 2020 as far as I know. I was in last month to discuss allocations and get some pictures of the Arctic Gray and my sales advisor showed me the list of demand orders for various models. A lot of back up. Some of them 20+ deep. I'd switch to a GTS4S if I could, but that would put me back at the bottom of that list.

 

​​​​​​​So you're approaching 2 years on a waiting list. In that time how much has Porsche increased the price of the C4S? You could have spent that price increase money on an ADM and been driving a 911 for the last 18+ months rather than waiting with no end in sight. Not trying to be mean, just pointing out that people need to weigh their priorities in regards to ADM's and MSRP wait times. Personally, I opted for the ADM and received my car in 4 months and love every moment I'm driving it. Just food for thought.

 

Where are you located? In most markets, $10k is an outsized deposit requirement and I would be very skeptical that any dealership has gone 2 full years without a single C4S allocation.

 

Hey everyone,

New member here, but wanted to share what I heard yesterday at my local dealership in Reno.

911T - I would be 3rd on wait list with an estimated delivery time of 12-18 months. Potential to get paint-to-simple but likely on the longer end of delivery timeframe. 3K refundable deposit to be added to waitlist and 10% non refundable deposit when build locks. No dealer markup.

911 4S/GTS was estimated to be 24+ months with 5K dealer markup.

Now I need to sort what to do…

Leaning towards starting the clock on T allocation with Oak Green Metallic or British Racing Green paint to sample build and then search for the right pre-owned 997.2/991/992 that will get me behind seat sooner until build locks.

Decisions…Decisions.