$5000 ADM on a 2023 Base 992
#31
Rennlist Member
I would take the offer at $5K. If the ADM environment no longer exists at delivery time then I would expect the dealer to price the vehicle accordingly. If they do not then walk away and get your deposit back.
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#33
Three Wheelin'
My dealership is requesting a European Delivery in lieu of an ADM. Every one of these they get, affords the dealership another allocation. This makes me feel like I'm getting an experience for my money versus just handing over a chunk of change, plus it helps the dealership. If it hasn't been offered by your sales person, it might be worth enquiring about...
#34
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#38
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Last edited by minn19; 11-18-2022 at 02:38 PM.
#39
RL Community Team
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I struggle to understand how this "tactic" is okay but the dealer would be the devil incarnate if they took your order at MSRP and then tried to charge you an ADM when the car arrived. How is it that people seem to have sliding scales of morality and right and wring depending on how they are affected by the outcome. What's the next suggestion - intentionally spec it out in a manner nobody else would want so that you have even more leverage at delivery? IS $5000 really all your integrity is worth? Actually, ,based on the advice, we know the answer.
So, I would offer the opposite advice: if you are comfortable with the $5K ADM (which seems about in line these days), make the deal, have integrity and be a man of your word. In other words, act the way you would expect the other party to the transaction to act. If you are not okay with the ADM, pass and keep looking.
So, I would offer the opposite advice: if you are comfortable with the $5K ADM (which seems about in line these days), make the deal, have integrity and be a man of your word. In other words, act the way you would expect the other party to the transaction to act. If you are not okay with the ADM, pass and keep looking.
I have always renegotiated the price of a pre-ordered car on delivery, even ones that were agreed to at or below MSRP. Cuz, why not? What do you have to lose?
Yes, yes, I know, the chorus here is going to sing the party line of "a contract is a contract and a man should live by his words" ... Ok, you do that. I will live by my own standards.
Because are you really going to tell the person in the mirror that if you agreed to an ADM of (for example) 10K and 6 months later when the car arrives every single 911 in the country is being sold for below MSRP, you're still going to stick to your words and pay MSRP plus the 10K agreed-to ADM?
If so, then you do you, sir.
#40
Burning Brakes
The 992 Carrera is a different animal than previous generations. It gets the wide body and it's fast. Really fast, enough for the street. There's no shame in spec'ing up a Carrera. Mine is spec'ed at $137 before tax. If I had spec'd an S the same it would have been another $20k. I don't want an S (daily driver) but I do want it nicely equipped. A base doesn't need to be a poverty spec.
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#41
It happens more than you would know.
I have always renegotiated the price of a pre-ordered car on delivery, even ones that were agreed to at or below MSRP. Cuz, why not? What do you have to lose?
Yes, yes, I know, the chorus here is going to sing the party line of "a contract is a contract and a man should live by his words" ... Ok, you do that. I will live by my own standards.
Because are you really going to tell the person in the mirror that if you agreed to an ADM of (for example) 10K and 6 months later when the car arrives every single 911 in the country is being sold for below MSRP, you're still going to stick to your words and pay MSRP plus the 10K agreed-to ADM?
If so, then you do you, sir.
I have always renegotiated the price of a pre-ordered car on delivery, even ones that were agreed to at or below MSRP. Cuz, why not? What do you have to lose?
Yes, yes, I know, the chorus here is going to sing the party line of "a contract is a contract and a man should live by his words" ... Ok, you do that. I will live by my own standards.
Because are you really going to tell the person in the mirror that if you agreed to an ADM of (for example) 10K and 6 months later when the car arrives every single 911 in the country is being sold for below MSRP, you're still going to stick to your words and pay MSRP plus the 10K agreed-to ADM?
If so, then you do you, sir.
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FullThrottle64 (11-25-2022)
#42
The 992 Carrera is a different animal than previous generations. It gets the wide body and it's fast. Really fast, enough for the street. There's no shame in spec'ing up a Carrera. Mine is spec'ed at $137 before tax. If I had spec'd an S the same it would have been another $20k. I don't want an S (daily driver) but I do want it nicely equipped. A base doesn't need to be a poverty spec.
#43
I struggle to understand how this "tactic" is okay but the dealer would be the devil incarnate if they took your order at MSRP and then tried to charge you an ADM when the car arrived. How is it that people seem to have sliding scales of morality and right and wring depending on how they are affected by the outcome. What's the next suggestion - intentionally spec it out in a manner nobody else would want so that you have even more leverage at delivery? IS $5000 really all your integrity is worth? Actually, ,based on the advice, we know the answer.
So, I would offer the opposite advice: if you are comfortable with the $5K ADM (which seems about in line these days), make the deal, have integrity and be a man of your word. In other words, act the way you would expect the other party to the transaction to act. If you are not okay with the ADM, pass and keep looking.
So, I would offer the opposite advice: if you are comfortable with the $5K ADM (which seems about in line these days), make the deal, have integrity and be a man of your word. In other words, act the way you would expect the other party to the transaction to act. If you are not okay with the ADM, pass and keep looking.
#44
Rennlist Member
The 992 Carrera is a different animal than previous generations. It gets the wide body and it's fast. Really fast, enough for the street. There's no shame in spec'ing up a Carrera. Mine is spec'ed at $137 before tax. If I had spec'd an S the same it would have been another $20k. I don't want an S (daily driver) but I do want it nicely equipped. A base doesn't need to be a poverty spec.
#45
Three Wheelin'
Yes, and every time it does the Rennlisters all come out with their pitchforks. All I am saying is what is good for the goose is good for the gander. If it is okay for a customer to use their leverage to renegotiate the price hoping the dealer won't want to be stuck with the car, then it should also be okay for the dealer to add on ADM hoping that the buyer who has been waiting a year and tracking their car through production and through its voyage over the ocean won't want to walk away and start anew. I don't recall any posts from you supporting a dealers right to do that.
And the case in point is not one where the market has moved significantly - so your mirror scenario is not applicable.
Last edited by Drew46; 11-18-2022 at 06:37 PM.