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For me, the most compelling takeaway from the video is the spring rates. It is the first time I see actual numbers put on the various 992 variants/options.
I had driven a S-PASM Carrera-S back to back with my S-PASM turbo on track, and it was very obvious to me that my turbo was much more stiffly sprung than the S-PASM C2-S. It also makes it clear that a GTS has a much sportier ride than a C2-S can have with the S-PASM suspension, with 40% front and 22% rear higher spring rates..
I wonder if the springs from a GTS can be used on an S? It would seem the brakes would be fairly easy to retrofit as well
I assume the dampers are different btw S and GTS to cope w/ the stiffer springs. Switching springs alone would not necessarily provide the best improvement in handling or ride if the dampers cannot match the increased spring rates. They would also wear out the stock dampers faster as well which would further mess up handling and ride as you add miles to the car. This has been my experience on every single car I’ve lowered with springs only… just not a good idea IMO.
I assume the dampers are different btw S and GTS to cope w/ the stiffer springs. Switching springs alone would not necessarily provide the best improvement in handling or ride if the dampers cannot match the increased spring rates. They would also wear out the stock dampers faster as well which would further mess up handling and ride as you add miles to the car. This has been my experience on every single car I’ve lowered with springs only… just not a good idea IMO.
Yes that makes sense. The shocks/struts would need to be changed as well.
This is great info... there was a large debate in another thread on whether the GTS suspension was actually any different than an S with S-PASM and this clearly shows it is.
These guys put out some great content. Video confirms what most people believe to be true about the GTS, Suspension can be felt at the limits (really slow and pushing it on the track), no noticeable power increase. Great review.
That is really a subjective viewpoint and they did not expand on it much. However, empirical testing by various publications has shown the GTS to be meaningfully faster on acceleration than the -S...
That is really a subjective viewpoint and they did not expand on it much. However, empirical testing by various publications has shown the GTS to be meaningfully faster on acceleration than the -S...
Agreed. The GTS has significantly better performance than an S given the 30 hp/ 30 lb/ft torque difference. The manual GTS runs identical 1/4 mi times with a 1 mph faster trap speed speed than a PDK S. The PDK GTS is quicker still. .4 sec and 3mph improvement in the 1/4 mile btw a PDK GTS vs a PDK S indicates to me that the imrpovement in power is more like 50 hp. I didn't post the manual S results, but the manual S (which i own) is WAY slower than a manual GTS. It's also great to see that the 2020 992 S is basically the same weight as a 2022 992 GTS. Most cars gain weight over time even in the same generation.
Here are the C&D performance stats: GTS manual vs. Carrera S PDK vs. GTS PDK:
Agreed. The GTS has significantly better performance than an S given the 30 hp/ 30 lb/ft torque difference. The manual GTS runs identical 1/4 mi times with a 1 mph faster trap speed speed than a PDK S. The PDK GTS is quicker still. .4 sec and 3mph improvement in the 1/4 mile btw a PDK GTS vs a PDK S indicates to me that the imrpovement in power is more like 50 hp. I didn't post the manual S results, but the manual S (which i own) is WAY slower than a manual GTS. It's also great to see that the 2020 992 S is basically the same weight as a 2022 992 GTS. Most cars gain weight over time even in the same generation.
Here are the C&D performance stats: GTS manual vs. Carrera S PDK vs. GTS PDK:
Important to point out here that the PDK GTS at 3,399lb is with the lightweight package. A standard GTS is likely a few lbs heavier than a similarly equipped C-S.
For me, the most compelling takeaway from the video is the spring rates. It is the first time I see actual numbers put on the various 992 variants/options.
I had driven a S-PASM Carrera-S back to back with my S-PASM turbo on track, and it was very obvious to me that my turbo was much more stiffly sprung than the S-PASM C2-S. It also makes it clear that a GTS has a much sportier ride than a C2-S can have with the S-PASM suspension, with 40% front and 22% rear higher spring rates..
Important to point out here that the PDK GTS at 3,399lb is with the lightweight package. A standard GTS is likely a few lbs heavier than a similarly equipped C-S.
Actually not the full lightweight package, just buckets and rear seat delete.
09-26-2022, 10:41 AM
Savagegeese 992 GTS technical/track review
