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Old 02-13-2023 | 12:55 AM
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They had originally planned to go hybrid on the 991.2, too.
no, they did not
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I found the 991.2 to be a major aesthetic upgrade. Sometimes I think they purposefully leave room for themselves to improve on the LCI cars. Like the engine cover on 992.1. I’d say the same thing about the piano black plastic in the interior but it appears that’s sticking around
Agreed the 991.2 looks far better to me too, rear lights in particular😎
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
no, they did not
Jason Cammisa mentioned this during his review of the 991.2 as the reason why the length and wheelbase grew so much between the 997 and 991 models. Given that he’s a well respected auto journalist with deep industry connections and you’re someone who incessantly posts incorrect and unsubstantiated information about a car you don’t even own, the choice of whom to believe is straightforward
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Originally Posted by Nein Eleven
Jason Cammisa mentioned this during his review of the 991.2 as the reason why the length and wheelbase grew so much between the 997 and 991 models. Given that he’s a well respected auto journalist with deep industry connections and you’re someone who incessantly posts incorrect and unsubstantiated information about a car you don’t even own, the choice of whom to believe is straightforward
When the 992 chassis was introduced back in 2018, Porsche's chief engineer, August Achleitner, said a hybrid 911 was "not planned now for this part of the generation"


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Old 02-13-2023 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
When the 992 chassis was introduced back in 2018, Porsche's chief engineer, August Achleitner, said a hybrid 911 was "not planned now for this part of the generation"
Which was true because Porsche didn’t introduce a hybrids for this part (.1) of the generation (992) in question. Porsche tends to introduce the major powertrain upgrades as part of the .2 refresh but the chassis needs to be designed to accommodate a change as big as hybridization from the outset (major chassis design changes go beyond the scope of a refresh). Just to reiterate, Porsche was planning well before 2011 to introduce hybridization on the 991.2 but obviously abandoned those plans due to technical or marketing issues.
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Reading this conversation, it seems that in recent years Porsche tends to introduce major aesthetic changes with the full numbers, 991 and 992; and major powertrain changes with .2 upgrades. Is that correct?
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My take is there will be a hybrid maybe in the Turbo first, can’t see it being imposed on all models right away. Time will tell!
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From what I understand, the S engines will be the first to come out with a mild hybrid system, Turbo models will more heavily use this system but no plug-in systems in the foreseeable future, hurray!
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Where did you source the 992.2 photo from? This vehicle appears to have new polished rims. I see autoevolution.com is watermarked on the photo but I cannot find this photo or others like it on their site.
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I have noticed that other mules have also had slightly different pipes and surrounds. Could shape affect exhaust note?….sorry for my ignorance with this question
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Originally Posted by Nein Eleven
Jason Cammisa mentioned this during his review of the 991.2 as the reason why the length and wheelbase grew so much between the 997 and 991 models. Given that he’s a well respected auto journalist with deep industry connections and you’re someone who incessantly posts incorrect and unsubstantiated information about a car you don’t even own, the choice of whom to believe is straightforward
You and your journalist might want to check your facts. While the wheelbase of my 991.1S did change over my 997.2S and 997.1, the overall length of the 991.1S only increased by about 60 millimeters. It was the wheelbase inside the length and the track that changed substantially for engineering and performance reasons. In addition, my 991.1S weighed slightly less than my 997.2S. So, I think your and your journalists’ statement the the LENGTH “grew so much” is misleading. And many people on here disagree with me all the time, but I do not take it personal. We just disagree….that’s all…..and that’s OK.
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I have noticed that other mules have also had slightly different pipes and surrounds. Could shape affect exhaust note?….sorry for my ignorance with this question
The exhaust is camouflaged. That is why the exhaust tips are mismatched.
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Originally Posted by FOCAS
Where did you source the 992.2 photo from? This vehicle appears to have new polished rims. I see autoevolution.com is watermarked on the photo but I cannot find this photo or others like it on their site.
I just did a google image search for 2024 992.2 but the link shows the pic in the gallery section of their website:

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2...mo-208125.html
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Old 02-13-2023 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JOSCAL
My take is there will be a hybrid maybe in the Turbo first, can’t see it being imposed on all models right away. Time will tell!

I agree, that was implied in the Car mag interview last month, IIRC.
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Originally Posted by Fullyield
You and your journalist might want to check your facts. While the wheelbase of my 991.1S did change over my 997.2S and 997.1, the overall length of the 991.1S only increased by about 60 millimeters. It was the wheelbase inside the length and the track that changed substantially for engineering and performance reasons. In addition, my 991.1S weighed slightly less than my 997.2S. So, I think your and your journalists’ statement the the LENGTH “grew so much” is misleading. And many people on here disagree with me all the time, but I do not take it personal. We just disagree….that’s all…..and that’s OK.
You're kinda proving my point. The 991 grew by about 100mm in wheelbase and 60mm in length compared to the 997 for engineering and performance reasons, as you state, whereas the 992 remained unchanged in wheelbase and increased by only 19mm in length compared to the 991 and yet can accommodate the new hybrid system. Therefore, if the 992 chassis is about the same size as the 991 chassis and the 992 chassis can accommodate the new hybrid system then it's reasonable to assume that the 991 chassis could have accommodated the new hybrid system as well.

Here's the video I was referring to with the hybrid reference at 3:40:

EDIT: he just mentions wheelbase, not length.


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