chapmans

I dont see why they wouldn't put the GTS 4L in it. They have about 50 versions of the 911, and it would be trivial cost wise. If its slower than the turbo cars thats fine, put it in some purist model.

Ideal normal 911 would be GTS 4L with the GT3 6 speed. Do it cowards

Nein Eleven

The NA advocates love to talk about linear response and sound while conveniently forgetting about the lack of low end torque and the fact that an S will embarrass a GT3 on the street.

Fullyield

The power delivery and response of my 992S is every bit as linear as in my 991.1S and the low end torque is much, much better.

koshiw

if they did same as 718 lineup, NA for gts only and keep turbo for base/T/S, wonder how people will react
i would trade up for NA, lack of low end torque at all

Fullyield

The marketing difference is that demand for 718 substantially dropped when 4 cyl. engine rolled out requiring the GTS/Spyder 4.0 NA development and campaign. Porsche does not have that problem with the 992 or the 9A2 Evo engine.

slc4s

the only change I actually want is to get rid of the piano black on the center console (not happening).

Reality is this: it'll be a nice refresh. Nothing major other than the addition of a hybrid option which some will love and some will hate. People that have 992.1 will claim for XYZ reason theirs' are the better cars (real tachometer!), arguments will ensue, and in the end a brand new .2 will be more desirable than a 1 year old .1. Its just the Porsche circle of life.

jplaro

I wouldn't overthink it. All 911s are fantastic cars in their own rights. Get the .1 if you can or get the .2. Heck, get a .1 and change it for a .2 if it turns out to be better for you. Maybe hold out until the next generation and skip the refresh.

Whatever you do, its a 911 and will be a fantastic car.

22992

It's called character and desirable if you're talking about an NA power curve with less torque than a camry down low. If you're talking about a turbo, all power characteristics are considered a negative because that's not how an N/A does it. I grew up in the 80's and 90's when turbos were cool, you know, when the Nissans had 4 wheel steering before anyone else, the GNX was embarrassing people on the street and the 993 GT2 Evo was the baddest porsche in the world. I'm cool with turbos. I'm veeerrrry cool with turbos.

Fullyield

Piano black is OK with the MT and GT3 PDK shifter, IMHO, because the leather boot keeps it limited. It is the Braun PDK shifter that is awful and to me the poor design and appearance of the shifter is what results in too much piano black.

GT3 PDK shifter with piano black

Braun shifter with piano black

rokkerkory

1000%

JCZ5

Since we're playing hypotheticals...I will throw in another reason to put the 4.0 in the 992.2. From a purely business "pencil pusher" perspective, each development will require a certain ROI. There is no way the 4.0L in the 718 have gotten that return based on the number of units produced. The 3.0T is in the right direction on the payback roadmap.

As someone said earlier, Rennlisters are nuts about, but I doubt the majority of 911 buyers care. Or if they focus on spec and usability, the turbo motor is far more affective. Especially if you live in any city substantially above sea level.

911dude41

All valid points on turbocharged vs N/A. Yes the turbocharged car is a better performer. Regardless, there's an undeniable soul the N/A engine has that is unobtainable with turbochargers. This is coming from someone with a 700+whp Turbo S.

So... Why not both? I'd rather have an N/A in the lineup than no N/A. To each his own, if you like the 3.0 and feel that it's better for you then you know what you want. By all means. Vice versa.

Bring back the N/A! To this day I never forget how amazing my 991.1 C4S was compared to my 991.2 GTS and Turbo S in it's own way.

Johnauto

Has it been confirmed that the 992.2 is even coming out this year for model year 2024? Someone mentioned they heard next year 2024 for model year 2025?

ctdubl07

Correct, there is zero confirmation that the .2 will come out in 2024 but I believe your mentioning an earlier post where that poster "heard" from their Salesperson the .2 would be delayed/released in 2025.
What can be confirmed is that there is no less knowledgeable a person than a dealership SA relative to the board level product decisions being made in Stuttgart, especially this far in advance.

I would continue to speculate that it will be the coming 2024 model which transitions to the .2 because of 3 primary reasons:
-Past 2 generations .2 update occurred at this same point in those models lifecycle, or 4.5 years, which we are at with the 992.1
-the plethora of "mules" with less cammo running around
-January is standard month when more "leaks" occur about coming MY changes which we are seeing

Believe me (just like the Royal Family) all these spyshots, articles and 3rd party interviews all have some underlying component of being informed from Porsche itself. Its a dance that is happening on an increasing basis and how the industry works and I would bet it continues right up until the April official info release....

3rdpedal

I got tired of waiting for a Macan EV for my wife, she doesn't really want a Taycan or Taycan CT, and so my shortlist of EV options for her went down, so I put a deposit down this week on a Cadillac Lyriq EV, wishing I had done so sooner, because I am looking at 2025 to receive that vehicle, unless we get lucky and our number comes up with delivery in mid to late 2024. Almost anything new is seeing delays of 1-2 years in development, and then any new models are selling out and getting long waiting lists immediately.