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Old 01-20-2023 | 02:22 PM
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I suspect it’s PDK only because the manual 0-60 time wouldn’t be print friendly for a 110k sports car. But just speculating though.
I believe I've read that the lack of MT in the base variants C2/C4 is so manage emissions/fuel economy as applied to overall production numbers.
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Old 01-20-2023 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dixonk
I suspect it’s PDK only because the manual 0-60 time wouldn’t be print friendly for a 110k sports car. But just speculating though.
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I believe I've read that the lack of MT in the base variants C2/C4 is so manage emissions/fuel economy as applied to overall production numbers.
Thanks, @dixonk and @3rdpedal (great name, by the way!) Regardless of the reason, it's sad. To get a 992 Carrera with MT and PASM (non-Sport) one must now move up to an S, which is a great car but so much more expensive than a base 992.

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Old 01-20-2023 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TomTarzian
Sorry, VR, but I detected no intent to disrespect. We are fellow Porsche enthusiasts. We can enjoy each other's company on this website without being mean, can't we?



If only we could have a 992 with the NA 4.0 from the 718. Hard to believe Porsche developed that motor only for relatively short lived use in the 718 GT4 and 718 GTS.



Amen, and it should have MT available as an option. PDK only base model is awful. I know we now have the T but that's not a replacement for a base 992 with MT. Plenty of people--myself included--thought the base 991.2 with MT and few options was a very satisfying and "relatively affordable" sports car.

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PDK base model is awful? Many owners including me have a different opinion.
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Old 01-20-2023 | 08:17 PM
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Funny that everything is going hybrid and still people here hope for a NA manual base model 911 lol. Sorry but that is not going to happen. Only hope that the GT3 will be NA (and it will probably). But no more manual and definitely no NA for the standard Carrera. Hybrid is confirmed and I have seen pictures of it (as well as the digital dash). So there is no real escape from this I’m afraid. I am sure the performance will be brilliant. Nobody is doubting this. But the weight will be hard to ignore.

And the base model 911 is anything but awful.
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Old 01-20-2023 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TomTarzian
Thanks, @dixonk and @3rdpedal (great name, by the way!) Regardless of the reason, it's sad. To get a 992 Carrera with MT and PASM (non-Sport) one must now move up to an S, which is a great car but so much more expensive than a base 992.

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Doesn't the new T solve this problem Tom?
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Old 01-20-2023 | 09:45 PM
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PDK base model is awful? Many owners including me have a different opinion.
I think I misled you. I have nothing against the base 992 with PDK. Great car. What is awful is that it is only available with PDK and not also available with MT. Forgive me if I caused offense.

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Old 01-20-2023 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by TomTarzian
Thanks, @dixonk and @3rdpedal (great name, by the way!) Regardless of the reason, it's sad. To get a 992 Carrera with MT and PASM (non-Sport) one must now move up to an S, which is a great car but so much more expensive than a base 992.

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Doesn't the new T solve this problem Tom?
Scott, the T solves the problem if one wants PASM Sport and MT. But if one wants PASM non-Sport and MT one must go to an S. And compared to a base 992 with MT, the T is pretty pricey.

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Old 01-21-2023 | 01:37 PM
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Doesn't the new T solve this problem Tom?
Some of the selections/ options I want are not available on a T. The only trim available with everything I want on a new 992 was a S.
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Old 01-21-2023 | 01:41 PM
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Funny that everything is going hybrid and still people here hope for a NA manual base model 911 lol. Sorry but that is not going to happen. Only hope that the GT3 will be NA (and it will probably). But no more manual and definitely no NA for the standard Carrera. Hybrid is confirmed and I have seen pictures of it (as well as the digital dash). So there is no real escape from this I’m afraid. I am sure the performance will be brilliant. Nobody is doubting this. But the weight will be hard to ignore.

And the base model 911 is anything but awful.
People who want manual will have that option that ISNT a GT3.
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Old 01-21-2023 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Macboy
And the base model 911 is anything but awful.
Yes! What is awful is it is no longer available with MT.

Originally Posted by Fullyield
Some of the selections/ options I want are not available on a T. The only trim available with everything I want on a new 992 was a S.
Same here. The T is a fabulous car, but I had to go to an S to get MT and the suspension and colors I wanted. And spend thousands more than a similarly equipped base 911. I'm guessing someone at Porsche is smiling!

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Old 01-22-2023 | 05:46 PM
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How does he know it’s a hybrid GTS?

It’s a disguised mule:
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Old 01-22-2023 | 06:10 PM
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How does he know it’s a hybrid GTS?
Yellow sticker
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Old 01-22-2023 | 06:35 PM
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... and GTS?
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Old 01-22-2023 | 06:56 PM
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giant brakes, but non turbo body -

see my previous posts. im still thinking they may call it the 911 SPYDER (918 tech reference)
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Old 01-22-2023 | 07:09 PM
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... and GTS?
Not sure where they are getting GTS. It’s clearly 5 lug, front fascia doesn’t look like anything different or spectacular. Maybe they know something we don’t?? Or maybe they know less than they should..

brakes are huge tho..
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