jack_carls0n

This is an article that shares some info about the hybrid/electrification of the 911.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/44819/...-a-plug-in-ceo

It does mention that the hybrid version will be based on the 992 series. So it is coming sooner than later. I am guessing the next gen 911's will be hybrid and 718 will be all electric.

dixonk

If the car is 9000 lbs but can lap the ring faster than a current production car you would not buy it? I would think performance trumps weight. If they can make a hybrid fast and nimble who cares what it weighs.

detansinn

This 100%. The average 992 build weighs something north of 3500lbs. It’s not like these are lightweight cars.

ipse dixit

It's all relative.

Compared to its peers -- modern sports cars that are not exotics this side of Mclaren -- the 911 in basically any trim is one of the lightest cars (and really not just sports cars) currently in production today with an MSRP north of 50K.

RRich

They already have EVs like the Model S Plaid which are competitive with the fastest production street cars like the McLaren Senna & GT2RS on track. In fact last year I was at Laguna Seca for a HPDE event when I noticed Randy Pobst in the car in front of me had just signed in. The next day I saw a news release reporting Randy set the fastest lap for an EV and the second fastest lap for a production car only 0.60 slower than a Senna. However at 4,766 lbs I would not expect a 911 driving experience. No need for light weight carbon fiber, wishbone suspension, fancy aero… just simple brute force of 1020 hp can overcome a lot of deficiencies.

westcoastj

Are there any hybrids with manual transmission?

Dudewithout992

Interesting reading "9000 pounds" and "nimble" in the same paragraph.

Ray K.

It ultimately depends on how it feels to drive. I don't think there is any magic that can make a heavy car feel nimble and responsive despite what the performance numbers suggest. The feel can also be relative to other vehicles one drives or has driven. I'm moving on from a 2020 M4 convertible because it feels so heavy to me at 4100 lbs. My other cars are a 3700 lbs. Audi S4 and my wife's X3 at around 4300 lbs. The driving dynamics of the M4 are quite good despite the weight, but a 3400 coupe will be a much more pleasing experience and still have space for the kids. .

balucipher

Honda CR-Z

ipse dixit

Not in current production.

67SSWT

As the owner of a few air cooled cars, I often wonder as these models get increasingly complex will they last, will parts be available and who will work on them.
Or will they be disposable/recycleable?

nyca

People who say "who cares what it weighs so long as it goes fast", don't really understand the overall experience of driving a sports car. It's not just about 0-60 in a straight line.

dixonk

I said around the ring not in a straight line. If the magicians at Porsche could make a heavy 911, and I was being facetious about 9000lbs, but let’s say they do. And it laps the ring in 6:50 and they use some sort of electronic wizardry to make the steering feel good. You would still care about it’s weight?

detansinn

The Taycan isn’t about straight lines. It’s not like Porsche doesn’t know how to make a heavy car handle — they built a lot of experience making the Cayenne dance.

The 911 has never been a lightweight sports car compared to the rest of the market.

The sports car “experience” is about chassis communication, steering feel, brakes, and throttle response. It is the balance of all of those things.

A Nonce

From yet-another spy shot it looks like you can switch between the overlapping instruments layout introduced in the 996 to the current layout in the 992, 993 & previous generations. There seems to be a button on the steering wheel that switches back and forth?

It seems all but confirmed that the analog tach is going away but looks like we might be getting more choice and customization. Porsche giveth and Porsche taketh away!

No more dials cutoff by the steering wheel?!


One odd thing: The red coloring on the dial seems to indicate a 6,800 RPM rev limit on the engine pictured. But there seems to be an inner white ring on the tach that may indicate that the cutoff might actually be 7,800?! One can hope...