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Old 09-14-2022, 01:00 PM
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Same. I put down a deposit on both the C8 and 911. For me, the 911 came first and sealed the deal. I'm glad cause I swapped my car with my buddy's C8 for a weekend, and 911 is just way better IMO (if $ is no issue).
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3yr wait is pretty long, by that time, we should get info on the new gen which may further make you delay?
I'd say try out the c8 and see how you like it. Fun part of being a car enthusiast is trying out different flavors. You don't need to stick to one..
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Nothing wrong with either car. I loved my C7 but was able to transition to a 911 Targa so sold the Corvette. Some things I noticed with my C7: somewhat irregular/non-symmetric panel gaps, interior trim panels not lining up perfectly with one another, slight orange peel in the paint. The engine seemed bulletproof, but the A8 transmission made me worry as I approached 30,000 miles since many of them blew up around that time. I paid $58k. I paid $150k for my 991.2 Targa GTS. I did not see any of those issues on the Porsche and the interior materials just seemed a little nicer. Is it almost 3x nicer car? That's for you to decide. I wasn't unhappy with the Corvette but realized my ownership experience was more comparable to someone buying a Camaro. I never had Corvette posters as a kid, but did have a 930 Turbo poster along with a 944 Turbo and a Lamborghini Countach. Oh and a Farrah Fawcett poster that kept me busy.
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Each car signifies that you've made it for their respective income brackets.

I think the C8 is gorgeous from the front, but the back is equivalent to the lights coming on at the club.
Old 09-14-2022, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by F8Driver
One man's observation. I've owned 3 early Corvettes, a Ferrari 330 GTC, and driven several other Porsches, Corvettes, and a beautiful Ferrari 250 GTL. The current Corvette is an incredible achievement in performance at a price and the upcoming Z06 is going to be magnificent. But Corvettes feel "plasticky" despite their much improved interiors (An fellow aviator friend who flew the F-14, then the F-18 described the F-18 in exactly that way, plasticky ... can't say, I've not flown the F-18), in that sense they're unchanged since 1965 (my first Vette experience). To be clear, the C8 Corvette is an engineering marvel, but ...

The Porsche feels as if machined from a solid block of metal. The interior is (despite the intrusion of modern tech) still classic, the chassis's competence incredible. The performance numbers favor Porsche only slightly (much to Chevrolet's credit), but the driving experience is quite different. Corvette is not quite there. The performance/price ratio favors the Vette. But, if you can afford the price ... Porsche!
I think this is a good analogy. Price is always mentioned when discussing the Corvette. It's a great car for the price. This level of achievement is incredible for the price. While Chevrolet can reduce costs due to being part of a larger company and share common parts from other vehicles across the range. So can Porsche. Porsche does do that but I think is it somewhat limited. VAG does share drivetrains, but most of Porsche drivetrains are just for Porsche with exception of the Macan/Cayenne/Panamera. I believe switchgear and seating is unique to Porsche too. Maybe some underpinnings are shared. Chevrolet will use as much as they can as possible from the fleet and put that in the Corvette to keep the price down.
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Also, I do not do oil changes at the dealer. I go to an indy Porsche specialty shop and pay less than $300. They do full race prep etc and are PCA members. Why would I pay $6-700 at the dealership?
Old 09-14-2022, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
Each car signifies that you've made it for their respective income brackets.

I think the C8 is gorgeous from the front, but the back is equivalent to the lights coming on at the club.
The need to accommodate 2 full sized golf bags in the trunk does come with a price....tells you everything about the target market.
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Originally Posted by shrimp money
... the back is equivalent to the lights coming on at the club.
Now that is funny.
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I’d ask the same question on a corvette forum and see what the opinion over there is.
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Old 09-14-2022, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor C3
I’d ask the same question on a corvette forum and see what the opinion over there is.
They would say a combination of these, or maybe all of them:

1. All 911s look the same, which is to say like a flat VW Beetle.
2. A 911 is underpowered
3. A 911 is slower than a C8 (3.2 versus 2.8)
4. A 911 has no removable (hardtop) roof
5. A 911 is overpriced
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Old 09-14-2022, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
They would say a combination of these, or maybe all of them:

1. All 911s look the same, which is to say like a flat VW Beetle.
2. A 911 is underpowered
3. A 911 is slower than a C8 (3.2 versus 2.8)
4. A 911 has no removable (hardtop) roof
5. A 911 is overpriced
And they would not be entirely wrong either....if you want the fastest car at a reasonable price a 911 is certainly not the solution. But 0-60 times are just topics for bragging at the beer garden...and if that what matters the most I would not recommend a 911 (maybe except if you can swing the Turbo S).
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Old 09-16-2022, 11:20 PM
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Corvettes are amazing cars but I couldn’t ever compare it to Porsche. The build quality and life expectancy is really not even close to the 911.

Ofcourse if price isn’t a variable then this is my personal conclusion..

Vettes have a lot of cheap plastic in the interior and you can actually wobble and shake. Feels cheap for such a nice machine. Another thing is the panels not lining up and having weird gaps. I’ve seen way to many vette’s with this build issue. Also the paint. It’s not even close to as premium as Porsche.

performance speaks for itself..

in the end Porsche is such a refined built vehicle that it sadly out performs most American sports cars. It’s a marvel.. that being said… I find it hard to believe you won’t get an allocation within a year or so.

and don’t even get me started on the customer service u get from porsche 💅 vs American brands…. 😡

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Old 09-17-2022, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LaytonNYC
Corvettes are amazing cars but I couldn’t ever compare it to Porsche. The build quality and life expectancy is really not even close to the 911.

Ofcourse if price isn’t a variable then this is my personal conclusion..

Vettes have a lot of cheap plastic in the interior and you can actually wobble and shake. Feels cheap for such a nice machine. Another thing is the panels not lining up and having weird gaps. I’ve seen way to many vette’s with this build issue. Also the paint. It’s not even close to as premium as Porsche.

performance speaks for itself..

in the end Porsche is such a refined built vehicle that it sadly out performs most American sports cars. It’s a marvel.. that being said… I find it hard to believe you won’t get an allocation within a year or so.

and don’t even get me started on the customer service u get from porsche 💅 vs American brands…. 😡
Meh, I know lots of people with 10 year old Corvettes and they are doing just fine.

on a pure price/performance ratio, the latest 3 generations of Corvette beat the equivalent 911S hands down.
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Old 09-17-2022, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by SBAD
Meh, I know lots of people with 10 year old Corvettes and they are doing just fine.

on a pure price/performance ratio, the latest 3 generations of Corvette beat the equivalent 911S hands down.
With that in mind though, Chevrolet does not CPO a 10 year old Corvette. I think you’re more likely to see a Corvette with a shady maintenance history than with a 911. Porsche will CPO a 12 year old 911 and I think, at least to me, means they have confidence in their product.
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Originally Posted by c1pher
With that in mind though, Chevrolet does not CPO a 10 year old Corvette. I think you’re more likely to see a Corvette with a shady maintenance history than with a 911. Porsche will CPO a 12 year old 911 and I think, at least to me, means they have confidence in their product.
Interesting point. It makes me wonder though - what is the average mileage of a 10 year old Corvette versus a Porsche 911? My guess is the Vette will have a lot more miles. I also wonder what the sales volume difference is between the two marques?


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