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The demo ride 911s in dealer stock that we redline when they show 50 miles on the clock must have special engines that do not require this oh so critical break in procedure.
Not going to argue with you..but one thing is for sure: there are idiots everywhere.
Some random clueless, salesman, tells you : drive it like you stole it. Does he care ? Does the dealership care ? Somebody will buy that car and IF issues, will become his, not the dealer. Right ?
Originally Posted by SpyderTarga
Considering the 992 GT3's break-in being only like 950 miles, I think you're good to go.
Not the same procedures for the GT series.
This is my personal experience , not I heard and I did and so on...
Porsche engineers in Zuffenhausen ( on a factory tour ), in 2014 TOLD ME : " every single engine is run at least 500 km before it goes into the car ". Some engines more...
And " GT engines are broke in for at least 800 km, randomly up to 2500 km."
In Leipzig , at the track, I asked the question again and I was told the same.
I wish somebody would be able to ask the same question now days again and tell us the answers.
Maybe things have changed...
Not going to argue with you..but one thing is for sure: there are idiots everywhere.
Some random clueless, salesman, tells you : drive it like you stole it. Does he care ? Does the dealership care ? Somebody will buy that car and IF issues, will become his, not the dealer. Right ?
Not the same procedures for the GT series.
This is my personal experience , not I heard and I did and so on...
Porsche engineers in Zuffenhausen ( on a factory tour ), in 2014 TOLD ME : " every single engine is run at least 500 km before it goes into the car ". Some engines more...
And " GT engines are broke in for at least 800 km, randomly up to 2500 km."
In Leipzig , at the track, I asked the question again and I was told the same.
I wish somebody would be able to ask the same question now days again and tell us the answers.
Maybe things have changed...
Oh OK. I get it now, only idiots don't follow the BS break in suggestions. There are at that point more idiots than you can count my friend.
I'd be curious to see dyno comparisons of a car that's broken in properly vs not. I'm not saying there would be a difference, would just be curious to know.
There are lots of different theories and websites out there. The majority say that the engine makes more power if broken in hard.
The one really cool video is this one (I think), where they took two of the exact same engines and broke them in differently and then dynoed them and tore them down. Granted it is a motorcycle engine (those are easier apparently )- but the results were interesting.
Echoing @Drew46 experience, I also did the hard break in. My F10 m5 drank nary a sip of oil, where many (many) of my fellow owners on m5post had cars that were drinking oil by the quart regularly; a casual canvasing of the owners definitely showed that the baby it break in folks were the ones with the issues. They failed to properly seal their rings, and now they are suffering for it.
All you folks that are babying your cars for first 2k miles are probably doing yourselves and your cars a disservice.
Echoing @Drew46 experience, I also did the hard break in. My F10 m5 drank nary a sip of oil, where many (many) of my fellow owners on m5post had cars that were drinking oil by the quart regularly; a casual canvasing of the owners definitely showed that the baby it break in folks were the ones with the issues. They failed to properly seal their rings, and now they are suffering for it.
All you folks that are babying your cars for first 2k miles are probably doing yourselves and your cars a disservice.
2000 miles seems like insanity to me. I might give it one (extended range!) tank of gas staying below 5k... just a little one-day road trip when I take delivery. As others have mentioned, it's not like these engines have never been turned over before -- they're run at the factory at the very least for long enough to ensure they're within spec. I'll probably avoid launch control a little longer than that, but surely not for a full 2k miles.
If a car will break down because you didn’t break it properly then it should have a limiter programmed for the first n miles. Extremely easy to implement. It’s all software. The fact Porsche doesn’t do it means it’s bogus.
I believe hellcats do that limlit, power certain horsepower then after 500 miles full go. Not 100% sure on this
There are lots of different theories and websites out there. The majority say that the engine makes more power if broken in hard.
The one really cool video is this one (I think), where they took two of the exact same engines and broke them in differently and then dynoed them and tore them down. Granted it is a motorcycle engine (those are easier apparently )- but the results were interesting.
Just pasted 1,000 miles in my first 6 weeks of ownership (was on a trip for 10 days) and following the break in rules until 2,000 miles is frustrating me to no end. Not trying to create another break in thread 😁.
Quit lurking and start driving, 1000 in 6 weeks? I'd have that in 2 if I had my new 992.
2000 miles seems like insanity to me. I might give it one (extended range!) tank of gas staying below 5k... just a little one-day road trip when I take delivery. As others have mentioned, it's not like these engines have never been turned over before -- they're run at the factory at the very least for long enough to ensure they're within spec. I'll probably avoid launch control a little longer than that, but surely not for a full 2k miles.
it’s not 2000 miles it’s 2000 kilometers. Big difference
Always this assumption about ‘the next owner.” Not everyone flips their cars every two to three years. And ethically, it’s a crappy excuse unless you tell the buyer “oh yeah, and I ignored the factory recommended break-in.”
There's nothing ethical or unethical about it; the break-in is a recommendation (to use that term in the mostest loosest of fashions) not a requirement like, say, putting in the right viscosity of engine oil.
Last edited by ipse dixit; 02-23-2022 at 11:43 PM.
02-23-2022, 01:50 PM
)- but the results were interesting.
