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Old 02-16-2022, 01:08 PM
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LISBON, Portugal — Portugal’s navy said Wednesday that 22 crew members were being evacuated from a large cargo ship that caught fire near the mid-Atlantic Azores Islands.

The Felicity Ace sounded the alarm after a fire broke out in the hold, the Portuguese Navy said in a statement. The ship was carrying vehicles, the navy said.
The 200-meter-long (650-feet-long) ship was sailing from Emden in Germany to the port of Davisville in the U.S. state of Rhode Island, according to online vessel trackers.

Portugal’s navy said one of its patrol boats and four merchant vessels were helping with the rescue. Portuguese air force aircraft were also mobilized.

A Portuguese Navy spokesperson said he had no more details about the ongoing operation.

Courtesy Washington Post

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Originally Posted by nyca
The ship must have a fire suppression system, was it not engaged? I wonder if it was arson by a crew member.
How these things go down is not well understood. I should also say up front that this isn't a call out, I don't think you had any animosity or ill intent and what follows is just to try and describe to you and others who might be interested what they're looking at in the case of a fire at sea. There is no way to keep this short so the cliff notes would be that it's just possible you might want to cut those men some slack. I should preface this by saying I'm not familiar with this type but I can share some generalities. I'm going to bounce around a bit because these things are all interrelated...

The single largest key to successfully extinguishing a fire on board a vessel is getting to it early/before it has spread. For that reason, while it seems counterintuitive, fire extinguishers are usually the best hope and what were often used to successfully suppress a fire. Get to it early; it's all you need. Of course an extinguisher can't put out a whole lot of fire and sometimes it isn't possible to enter a space and use one, so, you have tools. Usually the engine room(s)and some other critical spaces will have what's called a "fixed" system. In the old days it would be halon, but nowadays, it's typically carbon dioxide. Because of the inherent dangers involved in dumping your charge accidentally these types of systems are reserved for those types of critical spaces and the people working in those spaces are required to have specific training, you have to have warning horns/lights to alert crewmembers that the charge is going to be dumped, etc. These can't be dumped automatically because you have to verify that personal are clear of the space, close vents, turn off air circulation, etc. Many of these spaces also have foam deployment systems which can dump foam into the bilge, these are also deployed manually. In this case it isn't a safety issue but you have only so many bullets and you expend them carefully and to maximum effect. Then you've got sprinkler/mist/fog systems. These use seawater so for practical purposes you've got an unlimited supply of agent. Depending on the space these can be triggered automatically or can be manually set. You also have aerosols which are relatively expensive but non-toxic, aren't corrosive, and can be tailored to the expected fire. These can be fixed systems or deployable, the crews call the latter grenades or bombs. Last among the major systems that you'll normally have at your disposal is the hose team; men in bunker gear with a hose. There are other things but those are the highlights. What you must have is defined by international regs as well as a smorgasbord of national regs, many boats have more than the minimum.

To move back to the beginning before any of that happens you have to be made aware that you have a fire. In this respect you've got gas detectors, flash detectors, smoke detectors, video surveillance, etc. This also is defined by various regs but often enough though it's the crew that finds a fire with good old-fashioned eyeballs and they set the alarm.

How does it get out of hand? Unfortunately it's easy: Boats have many flammable materials and the cargo itself can be dangerously flammable. Boats are riddled with wire ways, pipes, conduits, ducting, and so on that seemingly come and go from everywhere to everywhere. These can conduct heat from one space to the next. It can be difficult to know you have a fire until it is already fully involved because spaces are often (relatively) sealed. Imagine a fire in a container in the middle of other containers; it will take a while to figure out you have a fire and your options to fight it are few. Or consider that the devices employed to detect a fire can be disabled by a fire melting the wire leading to it; yeah, it happens. Another significant factor in fires getting out of hand is the difficulty in fighting them despite the tools so lets run that out.

There are lots of ways it may go down but we'll just consider what will be going on in most cases because specifics would require too much typing and no one would be interested anyway. To start with, somehow fire was found, it doesn't matter how, just that you have a fire. The alarm is sounded, the wheelhouse notified, and the wheelhouse will then set a general alarm. This will precipitate a whole crew response, who each will perform the individual duties of their station bill. The first of those duties will be to report to a designated place to be informed of the emergency and the response to it. That place is often the wheelhouse where the Captain is in overall command of the emergency response. He will determine which of the fixed systems will be used and that's normally a short conversation, it's probably going to be any that are applicable because early intervention greatly enhances your chances of getting the fire under control. This will require some setup but the crew trains for this and it is a part of the drills which are regularly conducted, so it is quickly done. The fixed suppression systems are then deployed. The automatic suppression systems should have deployed but if they failed they will usually be triggered manually if possible.

All of this may or may not work. If it does work, great, you're going to set a watch for reflash and deploy the lack of strategy called hope. If it doesn't work, not so good. Now you're looking at sending in a hose team to ascertain the situation. This is a truly daunting proposition; think about it: It's frequently going to be dark; so dark that you cant see your hand in front of your face. That would be through the mask of your SCBA because you're going to be under air and wearing full bunker gear. You'll be crawling to the fire; the lower you get the cooler it is and you may also be able to get under smoke and have some vision down there. Speaking of smoke there are fumes in such a fire; all toxic. Some will be just an irritant with a short exposure, some can take years off your life, some can be fatal in the near term, depends on what's burning. This keeps you keenly aware of the seal on your mask, you don't want to hit your head on something while crawling in the dark and break the seal which will lead to inhaling God-knows-what. How far you get is an open question. In fire school they're going to tell you that you can get 30 minutes out of a bottle of air if you control your breathing. Will not happen. The gear is heavy, you're crawling while dragging a hose along with you, it's hot, you can't see anything, you're scared. The reality is that as little as a few minutes can see you to the halfway point on your air, this is where you have to turn around because your air needs to last until you're out. You may not have got far because a lot of things may slow you down. You might have to roll your SCBA off while keeping the mask on to get down a ladder well for example, it takes time. You have to test every door, sealed spaces can produce backdrafts if you suddenly introduce oxygen to the space. That's not good. In any event once you are halfway through your air you turn around, fire or no fire. You will leave the hose laying but not let go of it, it's the gingerbread you're going to follow out. Then the next team goes in until a team makes it to the fire and attempt to fight it. Or not. At the fire it may be obvious your buttocks aren't fighting it without serious risk. The rule there is you don't risk your life for property. Saving babies from a burning building maybe, property, no. Or the hose teams might be recalled because the captain has decided that the boat is no longer the best shelter and wants to move to the rafts. He is facing a lot of questions himself and sometimes is working with only the possibility of what might happen rather than any sure knowledge. There is a thing called a burning liquid expanding vapor explosion, a BLEVE. This is where liquids in a container are boiled and the vapors produced cant escape until such time as the pressure becomes great enough to burst the container. This is most visually exciting when the thing boiling is combustible, diesel, gas, etc. A BLEVE with a combustible can produce a fireball somewhat like a nuclear detonation but on a smaller scale. There are a lot of potential BLEVEs on a burnig boat. You also have the cargo which may or may not be dangerous in a fire. If it is dangerous you're not going to want to get a close up view of that moment what things went to hell so you're going to leave the area. Sometimes you simply cant get the crew safely out of the fumes which means the rafts may be better shelter.

Again, I haven't captained this specific vessel type. I'm also not a fireman, although I've had significant training to fight fires and been through 3 of them for 2 wins and a loss. Everyone is brave in the movies but in the real world fighting a fire on a boat has some serious pucker factor and is knee shaking stuff when it's over. Which is a good place to end this overly long post. My guesses here: They abandoned ship; an abandon ship occurs when a captain decides it is no longer safe, or possibly, might not be safe. In other words you don't have to be certain someone is going to be seriously injured or killed, you honor the possibility it might go that way. This doesn't mean the cargo is lost but if I had to lay my money down on a bet I'd place it on the lost side. Things got hairy enough on that boat that the men got off of it, that says something.

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There just aren't any words to say to that except $*@(#) Did a quick search and did not find any more than what you said. OUCH!
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Wow. Hopefully the crew is all safe. Cars can be replaced.
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Terrible. That ship brought my new GT3 over this past September. Hope everyone is safe.
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If this is true - definitely not good news, at least in regard to cargo

https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-ne...oned-atlantic/

Car carrier FELICITY ACE issued distress signal in the morning Feb 16 some 90 nm SSW of Azores, Atlantic, and reported fire in one of cargo decks. The ship is en route from Emden Germany to North Kingstown USA [Davisville RI]. FELICITY ACE went NUC [Not Under Command] soon after issuing distress signal, 22 crew were reportedly, evacuated. Ship’s AIS as of 1450 UTC Feb 16 was still on, disabled ship drifting in eastern direction. Portugal Navy and nearby ships have been engaged in rescue. It’s not confirmed though, that all the crew abandoned the ship.

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Its not April 1st is it? I can't imagine waiting all this time only to have your car damages by fire on the way over.


It must be serious if they are evacuating the crew.

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What terrible news. I hope that everyone is safe. My car was on that ship in December.
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This is quite devastating to hear. My first 992 S had an engine failure upon delivery, then ordered a replacement 992, and guess what...my new (replacement) 992 S is on the Felicity Ace!!! What are the odds. I'm speechless.
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Fire in the hold. Ship has been abandoned. News reports show that all crew members safe and accounted for. So that's great. But the ship has been abandoned, which is a last resort and means whatever is going on with it is not being managed or mitigated. We will know soon enough, but the ship and its cargo could be a complete loss. Sucks for all those waiting for so long. I would hope and think that Porsche will put those lost vehicles to the front of the line to be re-made?
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holy ****
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My friend just sent me a screenshot of the Felicity Ace taken from a near by ship. The Felicity Ace is on fire big time...pretty sure it will be at the bottom of ocean soon or a complete cargo loss. I cannot believe it. Apparently the 992 was not meant to be for me.
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Originally Posted by audimotion
My friend just sent me a screenshot of the Felicity Ace taken from a near by ship. The Felicity Ace is on fire big time...pretty sure it will be at the bottom of ocean soon or a complete cargo loss. I cannot believe it. Apparently the 992 was not meant to be for me.
wow. unbelievable. care to share the pic?
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Originally Posted by audimotion
My friend just sent me a screenshot of the Felicity Ace taken from a near by ship. The Felicity Ace is on fire big time...pretty sure it will be at the bottom of ocean soon or a complete cargo loss. I cannot believe it. Apparently the 992 was not meant to be for me.
Can you share it? This is awful, but as everyone else has said, no one is hurt or missing, based upon reports. Insurance companies will make up the loss.

For those of you waiting and if your car is on this ship, that's a giant bummer.
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Originally Posted by audimotion
This is quite devastating to hear. My first 992 S had an engine failure upon delivery, then ordered a replacement 992, and guess what...my new (replacement) 992 S is on the Felicity Ace!!! What are the odds. I'm speechless.
Wow, now that’s a crazy car story. Sorry to hear.

This should also impact future deliveries with one less transporter available... this is from track your dream just now -




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like I said...looks like a lost cause.
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