992 gts or Shelby gt500 with carbon wheels
12-12-2021, 10:37 PM
#16
Race Director
Very different experiences. It comes down to your use of the car.
As a daily driver…
You can take a 911 anywhere. It goes with anything. It is classic and understated. It flies under the radar, but is an elegant driver.
That GT500 will look out of place at that fine restaurant that your significant other enjoys. It is a loud “look at me car” that is “trying hard” while sending the message “blue collar hero”.
As a weekend car…
It’s not hard to make some Porsche friends for adventurous driving to that little cafe everyone loves. Enthusiasts are super nerdy about build options and spec sheets. White collar professional and/or business owner crowd.
You’re driving the GT500 to the cars and coffee by yourself. You’re top dog of the Mustang owners and dealing with Hellcat drivers talking smack about your car. Lots of vaping and conversations with guys in their early 20s. Everyone’s nice, but lots of talk about drag racing.
As a track car…
Endless support from fellow Porsche owners on modifications and tweaks. Club and PDE events with great people at road courses. At a drag strip, you look like an a-hole and brought the wrong car.
When you wrestle the GT500 around the road course, people will tell you that it looks and sounds fast, but you will be the only GT500 there. At the drag strip, those Hellcat owners are talking smack.
Road trip/cross country…
You can take 911 across the country today and it will feel fast and comfortable. Excellent gas mileage at speed. Center locks will be a pain in the *** when you get a flat.
The GT500 will tax your body and your senses on that drive. Cops will see/hear you coming. When you break that carbon fiber wheel on that rural backroad, you’re sitting there on the phone with the realization that you’re effed.
As a daily driver…
You can take a 911 anywhere. It goes with anything. It is classic and understated. It flies under the radar, but is an elegant driver.
That GT500 will look out of place at that fine restaurant that your significant other enjoys. It is a loud “look at me car” that is “trying hard” while sending the message “blue collar hero”.
As a weekend car…
It’s not hard to make some Porsche friends for adventurous driving to that little cafe everyone loves. Enthusiasts are super nerdy about build options and spec sheets. White collar professional and/or business owner crowd.
You’re driving the GT500 to the cars and coffee by yourself. You’re top dog of the Mustang owners and dealing with Hellcat drivers talking smack about your car. Lots of vaping and conversations with guys in their early 20s. Everyone’s nice, but lots of talk about drag racing.
As a track car…
Endless support from fellow Porsche owners on modifications and tweaks. Club and PDE events with great people at road courses. At a drag strip, you look like an a-hole and brought the wrong car.
When you wrestle the GT500 around the road course, people will tell you that it looks and sounds fast, but you will be the only GT500 there. At the drag strip, those Hellcat owners are talking smack.
Road trip/cross country…
You can take 911 across the country today and it will feel fast and comfortable. Excellent gas mileage at speed. Center locks will be a pain in the *** when you get a flat.
The GT500 will tax your body and your senses on that drive. Cops will see/hear you coming. When you break that carbon fiber wheel on that rural backroad, you’re sitting there on the phone with the realization that you’re effed.
12-12-2021, 11:05 PM
#17
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I haven’t driven the Mach 1 yet, but I strongly suspect that it’s the Goldilocks Mustang. Again, if that’s the experience that you’re looking for.
12-13-2021, 01:20 AM
#18
I started out with a 981 cgts - 981 spyder - 991.2 gts - 991.2 gt3 - back to the mid engine 718 spyder, traded for a 992 turbo, and now waiting for my 992 gt3 Feb delivery.
I wanted to start a fun comparison thread, since most of rennlist threads have all been talking about adm, the long wait, resale value, deviated stitching ect ect.
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manifold danger (12-14-2021)
12-13-2021, 01:22 AM
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12-13-2021, 03:05 AM
#20
Is this a trick question? 992 GTS all the way. Aside from the fit and finish and reliability and overall quality differences, I’ve come to realize all these super high HP front engine RWD cars are a waste. Virtually none of them can put the power to the ground. That’s why a 760 hp GT500 still cannot match, let alone beat, a 992 Carrera S in 0-60 or 1/4 mi times (GTS will obviously be even quicker). The 992 S literally has 317 LESS Hp than the Shelby but still beats it in acceleration. I’m not all about magazine racing times but I’m just saying, as a owner of more than a few high HP Front engine RWD cars, I’ve come to realize it’s not very fun to slide all over the place through the first 3 gears. A RWD 911’s ability to put the power to the ground has been a revelation for me and has really made me not care much about all these high HP front engined cars.
Of course if you enjoy tire roasting and sliding all over the place on public roads, the GT500 is right up your alley.
Of course if you enjoy tire roasting and sliding all over the place on public roads, the GT500 is right up your alley.
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12-13-2021, 10:19 AM
#21
The 911 will be halfway around the track by them time the Ford's rear wheels get traction. The Ford is still plagued by easily observable cost cutting measures all over the place. Build quality is no better than a Mustang you get upgraded to at the airport.
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12-13-2021, 10:45 AM
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My garage currently has a GT350 and is looking forward to its stablemate C2S whenever it gets allocated and built - the GT350 is a great and very fun car that i refuse to sell even after 5 years and its a keeper in my books but i also know that the 992 C2S is absolutely a step up and you can't really even compare the two when it comes to build quality, performance or looks.
They aren't really competition (GT500/911) anyways but i will be damn happy to have my GT350 and the Carrera S in my stable.
They aren't really competition (GT500/911) anyways but i will be damn happy to have my GT350 and the Carrera S in my stable.
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12-13-2021, 11:19 AM
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If you watch some drag races online, the BMW M lineup cars do much better, despite being front engine RWD.
12-13-2021, 11:37 AM
#24
im not really in the market for a gt500, but have you seen the gt3rs vs gt500 track battle on motortrend? The 500 puts powder down quite well. While I agree that a gts is a better car overall, but if we’re talking about track time I don’t think a gts can match its track performance.
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Gt_4life (12-15-2021)
12-13-2021, 03:22 PM
#25
Performance aside, just sit in the GT500 and see if you are okay to have a $100K+ car that has the same quality as a $20K rental.
Having had a GT350, I can't live with the fit & finish of the car, or the plastic + glue smell in the cabin.
(It drives pretty sweet though. I'd imagine the GT500 to be even better.)
For the GT500, you need to think about if you are willing to trade quality for some additional performance;
But if you get the 992 GTS, I don't think you need to worry about such trade-off at all.
Having had a GT350, I can't live with the fit & finish of the car, or the plastic + glue smell in the cabin.
(It drives pretty sweet though. I'd imagine the GT500 to be even better.)
For the GT500, you need to think about if you are willing to trade quality for some additional performance;
But if you get the 992 GTS, I don't think you need to worry about such trade-off at all.
12-13-2021, 03:33 PM
#26
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12-13-2021, 03:37 PM
#27
Performance aside, just sit in the GT500 and see if you are okay to have a $100K+ car that has the same quality as a $20K rental.
Having had a GT350, I can't live with the fit & finish of the car, or the plastic + glue smell in the cabin.
(It drives pretty sweet though. I'd imagine the GT500 to be even better.)
For the GT500, you need to think about if you are willing to trade quality for some additional performance;
But if you get the 992 GTS, I don't think you need to worry about such trade-off at all.
Having had a GT350, I can't live with the fit & finish of the car, or the plastic + glue smell in the cabin.
(It drives pretty sweet though. I'd imagine the GT500 to be even better.)
For the GT500, you need to think about if you are willing to trade quality for some additional performance;
But if you get the 992 GTS, I don't think you need to worry about such trade-off at all.
12-13-2021, 04:04 PM
#28
In the Canadian market I'm seeing GT500 consistently asking $150K+, about the same as the 992 GTS starting price.
12-13-2021, 07:02 PM
#29
Burning Brakes
12-13-2021, 07:09 PM
#30
Burning Brakes
Is this a trick question? 992 GTS all the way. Aside from the fit and finish and reliability and overall quality differences, I’ve come to realize all these super high HP front engine RWD cars are a waste. Virtually none of them can put the power to the ground. That’s why a 760 hp GT500 still cannot match, let alone beat, a 992 Carrera S in 0-60 or 1/4 mi times (GTS will obviously be even quicker). The 992 S literally has 317 LESS Hp than the Shelby but still beats it in acceleration. I’m not all about magazine racing times but I’m just saying, as a owner of more than a few high HP Front engine RWD cars, I’ve come to realize it’s not very fun to slide all over the place through the first 3 gears. A RWD 911’s ability to put the power to the ground has been a revelation for me and has really made me not care much about all these high HP front engined cars.
Of course if you enjoy tire roasting and sliding all over the place on public roads, the GT500 is right up your alley.
Of course if you enjoy tire roasting and sliding all over the place on public roads, the GT500 is right up your alley.