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Old 10-07-2021, 06:55 PM
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Default Race video: GT3 vs Base

https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/drag-r...era-vs-911-gt3

Sharing this video because I found it interesting and entertaining. At various times in my 911 ownership experience, I have had serious FOMO about higher level models (like a few weeks ago when the GTS reviews came out). I've also been humbled by being unable to reach the limits of my C2S on a racetrack. This video is a good reminder that all 911s are awesome. Enjoy.
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10-08-2021, 03:32 PM
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No surprises here. The Base Carrera benefits from that low end turbocharged torque that the GT3 just doesn't have. Under some circumstances, the Carrera, even the Base model, is going to feel quicker on the street than the GT3. I know that people get all obsessed about NA engines, but the reality is that forced induction delivers the goods down in the lower part of the rev range.

That's not to take anything away from the GT3. When you've got the road to yourself, a GT3 can be an absolute hoot. Of course, a flat six wailing at up to 9k RPM ups the experiential side of things substantially. I haven't yet experienced the double-wishbone suspension on a 992 GT3, but I imagine that the improved setup pays significant dividends when the road (or race track) gets twisty.

There is an oft-repeated claim that somehow the lesser powered Base Carrera is better suited to the driving at legal speeds on the street than the other, higher trim/spec, 911s. It has also been said the the "S has too much power", "the Base will keep you out of trouble", etc. Heck, it's been talked up like the Base Carrera is some kind of Miata compared to other 911s. As this video demonstrates, there's no such thing as a slow 992. All of the 992 cars are stupid fast and as quick as the supercars of just a few years ago, even the Base car.
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It is interesting, I never have FOMO about GT cars, I do have a fear of massive depreciation of regular 911 models but love turbo engine performance. I feel a 992 Carrera T is my future.

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Pretty amazing how well the base kept up when you would've thought it wouldn't, with the wannabe race car
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Embarrassing! Only a 12.1 second quarter mile..

Wait...

That's freakin awesome..

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I don't know why you tube makes all the drag race videos of the least likely drag race cars . I feel the most 1/4 potential ids with the Turbo S but even with that it has to be tuned to beat the Plaid . I feel as time moves forward we are goin g to see Porsche step up with instant power delivery found in hybrid or EV technology that is revealing itself with Tesla . We are actually driving the last of the great cars ... but don't even race a model 3 in a draggy with a base car . It will beat you .

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I'll keep my base Carrera for now (and pocket the extra $60k or so) but that GT3 does look epic!
Matt did get a decent start of the line so he must have been taking advantage of that 4k rpm undocumented pdk launch.
Sport chrono adds 1 or 2k rpm to the launch and even quicker shifts and drops the ET by 2 tenths.
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A base Carrera and a GT3 with a manual gearbox will be a LOT closer in acceleration times.
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more the point (to me) was as far between these two vehicle's expected performance ratings are in reality, ~$50-60K over the Carrera doesn't buy an extraordinary amount of difference in a straight line.
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Would love to see the cars on a track driven by the same driver and same day, and then see the differences in time and experience
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Crazy to think but a base, with only a tune, will be deep into the 11s....amazing.
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Porsche GT Car aren't built for drag racing.. Lets see how it keeps up after a couple of turns.
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Originally Posted by ggreg911
Porsche GT Car aren't built for drag racing.. Lets see how it keeps up after a couple of turns.
Not only that but all that additional downforce handicaps the GT3 in any sort of straight line race, either from a dig or a roll.

It’s also why certain GT cars have lower VMax than their 911 counterparts.

Turning at speed means sacrificing speed in a straight line. Can’t fight physics.
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Originally Posted by yrralis1
I don't know why you tube makes all the drag race videos of the least likely drag race cars . I feel the most 1/4 potential ids with the Turbo S but even with that it has to be tuned to beat the Plaid . I feel as time moves forward we are goin g to see Porsche step up with instant power delivery found in hybrid or EV technology that is revealing itself with Tesla . We are actually driving the last of the great cars ... but don't even race a model 3 in a draggy with a base car . It will beat you...
Because they drive more views than their normal review vids, and subsequently, more revenue.
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No surprises here. The Base Carrera benefits from that low end turbocharged torque that the GT3 just doesn't have. Under some circumstances, the Carrera, even the Base model, is going to feel quicker on the street than the GT3. I know that people get all obsessed about NA engines, but the reality is that forced induction delivers the goods down in the lower part of the rev range.

That's not to take anything away from the GT3. When you've got the road to yourself, a GT3 can be an absolute hoot. Of course, a flat six wailing at up to 9k RPM ups the experiential side of things substantially. I haven't yet experienced the double-wishbone suspension on a 992 GT3, but I imagine that the improved setup pays significant dividends when the road (or race track) gets twisty.

There is an oft-repeated claim that somehow the lesser powered Base Carrera is better suited to the driving at legal speeds on the street than the other, higher trim/spec, 911s. It has also been said the the "S has too much power", "the Base will keep you out of trouble", etc. Heck, it's been talked up like the Base Carrera is some kind of Miata compared to other 911s. As this video demonstrates, there's no such thing as a slow 992. All of the 992 cars are stupid fast and as quick as the supercars of just a few years ago, even the Base car.
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Originally Posted by detansinn
No surprises here. The Base Carrera benefits from that low end turbocharged torque that the GT3 just doesn't have. Under some circumstances, the Carrera, even the Base model, is going to feel quicker on the street than the GT3. I know that people get all obsessed about NA engines, but the reality is that forced induction delivers the goods down in the lower part of the rev range.

That's not to take anything away from the GT3. When you've got the road to yourself, a GT3 can be an absolute hoot. Of course, a flat six wailing at up to 9k RPM ups the experiential side of things substantially. I haven't yet experienced the double-wishbone suspension on a 992 GT3, but I imagine that the improved setup pays significant dividends when the road (or race track) gets twisty.

There is an oft-repeated claim that somehow the lesser powered Base Carrera is better suited to the driving at legal speeds on the street than the other, higher trim/spec, 911s. It has also been said the the "S has too much power", "the Base will keep you out of trouble", etc. Heck, it's been talked up like the Base Carrera is some kind of Miata compared to other 911s. As this video demonstrates, there's no such thing as a slow 992. All of the 992 cars are stupid fast and as quick as the supercars of just a few years ago, even the Base car.

I remember years ago, being amazed that the Porsche Turbo (maybe 993?) was 0-60 in 4.4. That number was seared into my teenage brain, it just seemed so insanely low. And now….
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