Porsched

For the record, after over thinking this decision for far too long, I apparently stopped thinking and ended up with a 718 BGTS 4.0. I optimized for driving experience and fun. Also, the 718 was already expensive enough, so going to a T or even a Base 992 was too much. Honestly, the M3 was the better solution for my use case because a 2 seater convertible is the most impractical car I can think of. But it sure puts a smile on my face when I drive it and that's the point.

itrocks4u

Love it.

After starting a similar thread on 992 base vs M3, i too endes up with 992 S.
I have rear seats and I'm stressed on how to stuff the kids. Theres not much space.

Porsched

Congrats on the 992S. That is one fantastic car. The 992 still turns my head every time I see one. But yes, the seats sure are tiny. Maybe we will both end up switching to an M3 in the future. For now, I'm keeping my old car for family, dog, etc. The 718 is for me.

shelbyking

My next Porsche will be a 992S with an APR tune.

jlegelis

>> But yes, the seats sure are tiny
I'm of average build and have found the seat / cockpit *extremely* comfortable with the 18 ways. Most of my 6'+ taller friends do too (even with the sunroof), but if you are 'plus sized' then perhaps any car of this nature might be a tighter fit compared to a 'sedan'.

Porsched

I meant the backseats of the 992 are tiny. Even kids after a certain age have trouble fitting back there, let alone adults. The front seats are no problem at all. I'm actually surprised how well tall people can fit in a 911.

eclou

I was really into BMW and quite a longtime member of the Bimmerforums, spent a lot of time and hours tinkering in the E30/E36/E46 eras. Things may have changed in the newer iterations but the most basic difference I ever heard that rang true was its consumer grade vs commercial grade (BMW vs Porsche). There is a degree of fortitude to the Porsche cars which supports the notion that they were meant to be driven hard vs just looking good.

dhirm5

I'm no BMW apologist, and nothing they are making now appeals to me, but this is just not true.

I drove multiple M3/M4/M5 (F80/F10 gen) *flat* out at the M performance driving school. It is incredible what these cars endure, day in day out. Stand on the brakes into a corner, mash the pedal coming out, rinse/repeat, for hours on end, all day, every day. They change the tires/brakes constantly; that's pretty much it.

You can drive the snot out of a bimmer and it keeps asking for more. I came away very impressed; I used to feel bad after driving my car hard / tucking it into the garage to recover. I can tell you, very few of us ever come anywhere near the limits of what these cars are capable of (Porsche included).

tmslc

if you need 4 seats why are you considering the 911? while some 911 models may come with a back seat they are not all that useful unless your kids are very very young. i use mine for my our dogs ...

again, if you need a usable back seat the 911 is not the car to get, not even consider. I have daily driven a 911 (various generations) for about two years and the back seat is a formality.

eclou

BMW may have upped their game since the E46 gen. The earlier ones if tracked more than casually needed:
1)rear shock mount reinforcement plates due to cracking
2)new stiffer guibo and transmission mounts to prevent money shift
3)front strut tower brace to also reinforce mounts and prevent cracking
4)upgrade brakes to 993tt rotors and calipers
5)Vanos solenoid upgrade
6)replacement of water pump and radiator with metal impeller and end tanks to avoid catastrophic material failure

that's what I remember off hand

shepard

I'd agree with most others. M3 sounds like the perfect blend of function and fun. Personally, I love the RS6 but can't get that in a manual. That said, can't go wrong with a 992 for some spirited driving