Auto Start hack
08-23-2021, 01:14 AM
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Just a guess . . . but after the VW/Porsche/Audi Diesel-Gate matter, I'd imagine neither they nor any other OEM wants to run afoul of anything even remotely might have a similar smell to it. To the best of my knowledge, all OEM's are presently following the "must defeat at every engine start" logic.
08-23-2021, 01:20 AM
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Good point bluehighways! Diesel -gate was brought in late 2015 with a settlement in 2016. Why did they wait until the 992 was released in Dec 2018?
Do they really need to make me assert my decision every time I start the car to get their CAFE credit for fuel savings? Michigan 992, can you comment?
Do they really need to make me assert my decision every time I start the car to get their CAFE credit for fuel savings? Michigan 992, can you comment?
08-23-2021, 01:23 AM
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Nah, I think we're well past that sort of planned obsolescence logic. Most vehicles, if taken care of reasonably well, seem to last well in excess of 200,000 miles. Still, 100,000 miles certainly remains the retail market bug-a-boo, but over the past 20 years or so, I've seen way to many vehicles of various manufacturers consistently running quite well into the mid 300,000 mile range. Usually it's the interior that degrades to an unacceptable point before the mechanical systems give out. The qualifier of course is the "taken care of reasonably well" qualifier. Neglect the maintenance and it's definitely a pay me now or pay me later phenomena.
08-23-2021, 01:30 AM
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08-23-2021, 01:34 AM
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I'm certainly willing to push the sport button every time I start the car in order to prolong my engine life. After all, the handwriting on the wall says petrol-powered Porsches are on the way out, and I probably won't want to plunk down another 150k for another one at the end of the decade. Besides, Jake Raby could probably turn my 992 into a racer's dream that I could sell in 2030. (Isn't California going to outlaw sale of petrol cars in about 10 years?)
I still want to know if they *had* to make AS/S turn on every time, or they *chose* to do it. There's a big difference there.....
I still want to know if they *had* to make AS/S turn on every time, or they *chose* to do it. There's a big difference there.....
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08-23-2021, 06:56 AM
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Brand X would have their dealers deactivate start-stop for you permanently upon request. They then notified the EPA and their CAFE numbers were adjusted accordingly. Some brands gave the customer a switch that reset on each start and the EPA applied a partial penalty to the measured fuel economy compared to it always being on. Then a few companies came with a switch where the customer could permanently turn it off, but were getting only the partial penalty like the vehicles where it defaulted on for each start. Some companies viewed the last option as being the equivalent of a defeat device and asked for clarification from the EPA on this rule and fuel economy calculations. This pretty much brought the end to getting fuel economy credit for start stop globally if the customer could permanently set it to off. This leveled the fuel economy playing field for all the manufacturers.
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