GTS vs. GT3 Touring
02-27-2022, 12:42 PM
#106
03-22-2022, 08:20 PM
#107
Racer
Absolutely zero chance of a NA GTS. GT3/GT4 have about 10 years of NA before they end up hybrid or turbo.
03-22-2022, 08:37 PM
#108
Race Car
When roll racing, you have to brake boost. Way back in the day when I'd roll race in my Supra, you push the brake down a little and the other foot pushes down enough on the accelerator to maintain speed and get the boost up. Sounds hard to do, but really easy. Takes off a like a bat out of hell.
03-22-2022, 11:07 PM
#109
Rennlist Member
100%. I've gone through a run of cars trying to find that *perfect* car to cover all the bases. I came to realize that such a car does not exist.
I've found that the more fun a car is to drive, the more miserable it is to have as a daily driver. I tried pulling that trick off with a GT4 and that experiment failed. Then I switched gears to a 991.2 Turbo, but after awhile it started feeling like a really fast BMW and I got bored. I've learned that I need to have a manual transmission NA car in the garage as well.
Then I got a 993 for the weekend that I built up and an M5 Competition as a DD. Should have been perfect, but I missed driving a 911 to work.
I've been using my 992 C2S as my daily and keeping the 993 for the weekend and this has been working great. The combo of a hard core RWD/NA/Manual transmission car for the weekend and turbocharged car that's comfortable but still rapid and engaging works perfectly. I decided to switch the 992 C2S to a Turbo S after falling down a Rennlist rabbit hole, which is a ridiculous reason to buy a new car, but I'm a sucker I guess.
I was a huge fan of the 991.2 GTS. I think it was one of the best looking 911s they made. I think, coming into it fresh, I would definitely go for the GTS over the S, all things being equal. But is it "special" enough over a C2S to qualify as a weekend car? It's not NA which would be an issue for me. As a daily driver, though, it would be a great option.
I've found that the more fun a car is to drive, the more miserable it is to have as a daily driver. I tried pulling that trick off with a GT4 and that experiment failed. Then I switched gears to a 991.2 Turbo, but after awhile it started feeling like a really fast BMW and I got bored. I've learned that I need to have a manual transmission NA car in the garage as well.
Then I got a 993 for the weekend that I built up and an M5 Competition as a DD. Should have been perfect, but I missed driving a 911 to work.
I've been using my 992 C2S as my daily and keeping the 993 for the weekend and this has been working great. The combo of a hard core RWD/NA/Manual transmission car for the weekend and turbocharged car that's comfortable but still rapid and engaging works perfectly. I decided to switch the 992 C2S to a Turbo S after falling down a Rennlist rabbit hole, which is a ridiculous reason to buy a new car, but I'm a sucker I guess.
I was a huge fan of the 991.2 GTS. I think it was one of the best looking 911s they made. I think, coming into it fresh, I would definitely go for the GTS over the S, all things being equal. But is it "special" enough over a C2S to qualify as a weekend car? It's not NA which would be an issue for me. As a daily driver, though, it would be a great option.
And to get back to the original post - best answer is both! (or in my case GT3T + C2S which IMO is close enough given how I use the C2S mostly as a loaner for guests).
03-22-2022, 11:48 PM
#110
03-23-2022, 10:01 AM
#111
This is why the only correct answer is to have a bunch of different sports cars.. The problem is that it always feels like you are just 1-2 more additions away from the perfect garage. I'm up to 5 sports cars (I have no daily driver or practical car) and one more on order (Emira) and I also need to add a long hood 911 and maybe a 308 or 328 and then I'll be done....
And to get back to the original post - best answer is both! (or in my case GT3T + C2S which IMO is close enough given how I use the C2S mostly as a loaner for guests).
And to get back to the original post - best answer is both! (or in my case GT3T + C2S which IMO is close enough given how I use the C2S mostly as a loaner for guests).
03-23-2022, 10:11 AM
#112
This is why the only correct answer is to have a bunch of different sports cars.. The problem is that it always feels like you are just 1-2 more additions away from the perfect garage. I'm up to 5 sports cars (I have no daily driver or practical car) and one more on order (Emira) and I also need to add a long hood 911 and maybe a 308 or 328 and then I'll be done....
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Captain P (03-26-2022)
03-26-2022, 12:25 AM
#113
Rennlist Member
I went 992 c2s as daily and winged 992 gt3 as weekend. If I could only have 1, I’ll take the gt3 and buy a golf as a daily.
Im eying the 991.2 touring though as another weekend car. Life is to short to be rational.
Im eying the 991.2 touring though as another weekend car. Life is to short to be rational.
Last edited by Captain P; 03-26-2022 at 12:26 AM.
03-26-2022, 06:58 PM
#114
Rennlist Member
I would only part with my current TTS if I could find a a GT3 Touring that I don’t have to part with a limb to get. I think they are the best mix of subtle looks and raw performance.
Last edited by Penn4S; 03-27-2022 at 12:34 PM.
03-27-2022, 10:53 AM
#115
Rennlist Member
Like children, I try not to play favorites (it's definitely my daughter though - just kidding). Honestly, the whole idea behind having 5 impractical cars and no practical vehicle despite lacking sufficient parking is because the prime feature is variety. My favorite one to drive at any moment is usually the one that is most different from the one I just drove last time. The GT3 is wildly competent, sharp and raw while the Ferrari is quirky, comfortable (weirdly) and has an amazing engine. I could go on, they all have their character.
But, push comes to shove, if I had to keep only one, I think it would have to be the 993. But I'd be heartbroken to lose the others though.
But, push comes to shove, if I had to keep only one, I think it would have to be the 993. But I'd be heartbroken to lose the others though.
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justabout (03-27-2022)
03-27-2022, 04:03 PM
#116
When roll racing, you have to brake boost. Way back in the day when I'd roll race in my Supra, you push the brake down a little and the other foot pushes down enough on the accelerator to maintain speed and get the boost up. Sounds hard to do, but really easy. Takes off a like a bat out of hell.
03-27-2022, 07:19 PM
#117
Race Car
No, because there's no load on the engine. Your engine would be wound up, but there isn't a force of exhaust gasses to spin the wheel in the exhaust housing of the turbo. It may be difficult to understand without a boost gauge, but I promise you, it's night and day different.
03-27-2022, 07:38 PM
#118
No, because there's no load on the engine. Your engine would be wound up, but there isn't a force of exhaust gasses to spin the wheel in the exhaust housing of the turbo. It may be difficult to understand without a boost gauge, but I promise you, it's night and day different.