aggie57

Yeah, I put Europe into the same bucket as the US. EU and all that.

voyagez.fr

Not surprised 911 is the best selling sports car, but am surprised that z4 is 2nd place.

German1967

I am driving the latest Z4 M40i right now with B58 and 382hp. It’s a great little roadster and with $70k fully loaded a steal compared to a Boxster. And the infotainment works!

phaser

Oh yeah, cool car for sure.
The B58 inline 6 rated at 382HP has shown on all wheel dynos to put 373-381 to the wheels which is obviously waaaaaay over the 382 flywheel # BMW posts but we know the Germans all tend to underrate their motors and some far more than others. Actual flywheel here is around 445 HP. Throw a piggy back JB4 or Race Chip GTS on there and you've got a damn strong 2 seater that plus 6 foot guy with some upper body is comfortable in. Still surprised that they are #2 in sales.

n3rd

Buy now or forever be priced out… 2007-2008

slc4s

Wife needs a new car so been shopping for escalades/denalis and dealers all looking 10k+ over msrp
Could find a Porsche allocation so thought maybe I'd go a different route and get an SUV
Found a G550 I wanted.... $30k over MSRP


I really just need to take 6 months off from even thinking about new cars... its too frustrating right now.

frankchn

Agreed. I've been telling folks that if you don't want / need a car right this second (e.g. old car broke and you need a car to replace it), I would highly suggest to wait until there is some equilibrium in supply and demand.

oldbear

hi friend,
Which dealer did you go to? I live in irvine and I want to order a Carrera s or targa 4s. I was wondering if I need to pay over MSRP

dflo12

Was just looking into getting a GT4RS, and the dealership near me that I've shopped at for YEARS is charging $75k over sticker for an allocation. I understand $10k-$20k but $75k? Holy

c1pher

I was offered an allocation but instead of ADM, would have been required to get full PPF, ceramic, tire and wheel package and a watch. Wasn’t worth it to me but I’m sure someone took that deal.

cooler2442

Yeah that's cheap, average 4RS allocation currently is 50k(if lucky)-75k(easy to find).

curtdragon

Is this still a normal trend?
I'm looking to buy my first Porsche. Either a 718 GTS or a 911 base T or S. Ideally I'd also like PTS of possible. I have seen they're not doing any currently.

Would would be an ok markup on these?
I'm in TN but willing to shop wherever

OncPorsche

pts not available for a bit, maybe not until .2. No reason to pay an ADM or mark up in that area.

curtdragon

You mean 992.2? I am not realistically ready to order until summer next year. I was configuring stuff and there was no PTS on the 718 GTS but not sure what the lowest trim is to get PTS on the 911. I have been back and forth on a bare bones T with PTS, T interior, aerokit, 7 speed, or an S/GTS also with PTS and aerokit but auto with the driver assistance features. Also want Euro delivery if that makes any difference

I will have to check around as the Nashville dealer said there is a markup on most coupes/sportscars