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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 04:58 PM
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My car is just over a year old.. Never did PPF. Did ceramic coat, I know it's not the same but but I never had ppf on any of my other cars so didn't bother.

Until recent things have been ok. Now my car seems to be collecting rock chips like nobody's business.

I'm looking at possibly getting hood, fenders and front bumper done. But my question for you all is.

Does everyone here get ppf? Or was I the only one? And should I still bother getting it if there is already damage? Or is it too late?

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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 05:51 PM
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It is not too late, but, you will need serious paint correction before getting the PPF.
Unfortunately many people mistakenly believe that a Ceramic Coating offers some protection from chips. It does not.
My car has a full wrap with SunTek rather than Xpel. Suntek offers more healing protection and is hydrophobic. With Xpel, you almost have to add a ceramic coating but not so with Sun Tek. I added the Ceramic Coating for all surfaces including the windows and wheels. Cleaning is a breeze.

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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ChalkThe911
My car is just over a year old.. Never did PPF. Did ceramic coat, I know it's not the same but but I never had ppf on any of my other cars so didn't bother.

Until recent things have been ok. Now my car seems to be collecting rock chips like nobody's business.

I'm looking at possibly getting hood, fenders and front bumper done. But my question for you all is.

Does everyone here get ppf? Or was I the only one? And should I still bother getting it if there is already damage? Or is it too late?
Hit up that search function...lots (and lots) of threads, opinions, anecdotes and polls on PPF.
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 06:08 PM
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How many miles?

I'm on the fence for my soon to arrive car.
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 07:06 PM
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I have never seen the point of PPF.

I have now owned over 15 Porsches and never once had PPF and not once has the resale value of the car been affected by not having PPF and the car having the odd paint chip or two. It's a waste of money and one of the industries greatest scams....IMHO.
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
I have never seen the point of PPF.

I have now owned over 15 Porsches and never once had PPF and not once has the resale value of the car been affected by not having PPF and the car having the odd paint chip or two. It's a waste of money and one of the industries greatest scams....IMHO.
Not everyone feels the need or sees the value in PPF, which is fine if you don’t care about rock chips. Calling it a scam is a bit extreme when it’s clear the product works very well and does offer very good protection from all but the largest rocks. My 992 is the very first car I’ve had PPF on, and I’m glad I did it. There is something about the design or shape of this car that makes it very susceptible to small chips, especially the rear quarter panels that get hit by debris off the front tires.

Chalk, I’m also in Vancouver and will PM you a recommendation for PPF installer. I don’t think it’s too late to stop or save additional chips, but it’s not cheap and may not offer the same value as getting it done when the car was new. I will also say the PPF does not make the car look better, the film on my rear quarter panels has lots of debris hits and the film looks worse than the paint probably would. You have to have the mindset that it’s protecting the paint, not helping to make the car look better.

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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 08:39 PM
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How many miles?

I'm on the fence for my soon to arrive car.
In Canada, about 11,000km
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
I have never seen the point of PPF.

I have now owned over 15 Porsches and never once had PPF and not once has the resale value of the car been affected by not having PPF and the car having the odd paint chip or two. It's a waste of money and one of the industries greatest scams....IMHO.
Interesting view for sure.


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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Marantz2270
Hit up that search function...lots (and lots) of threads, opinions, anecdotes and polls on PPF.
Will do
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 09:26 PM
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Never too late.

I’ve used XPel on every car I buy. Some I keep 4yrs, some 2-3. Nominal rock chips, swirl marks, cars look new. Rocks, bird crap, mineral deposit protection - well worth it. Ceramic on top makes it a breeze to clean. It does add money and the ROI at sale is meh but it is a differentiator vs a car unprotected. I’m **** - knicks drive me nuts. I like perfect paint or as close to it as possible.

The key is your applicator - competence, not rushing, wrapping edges, not cutting into clear coat. Do your homework there and you’ll be an addict.
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rhr992c4s
Not everyone feels the need or sees the value in PPF, which is fine if you don’t care about rock chips. Calling it a scam is a bit extreme when it’s clear the product works very well and does offer very good protection from all but the largest rocks. My 992 is the very first car I’ve had PPF on, and I’m glad I did it. There is something about the design or shape of this car that makes it very susceptible to small chips, especially the rear quarter panels that get hit by debris off the front tires.

Chalk, I’m also in Vancouver and will PM you a recommendation for PPF installer. I don’t think it’s too late to stop or save additional chips, but it’s not cheap and may not offer the same value as getting it done when the car was new. I will also say the PPF does not make the car look better, the film on my rear quarter panels has lots of debris hits and the film looks worse than the paint probably would. You have to have the mindset that it’s protecting the paint, not helping to make the car look better.
This is precisely why I am hesitant about installing PPF. The damaged film looks worse than the underlying paint would if unprotected. When do you actually get to enjoy the protected paint? When the next installer peels the wrap off and you then enjoy looking at the protected paint just before he installs another wrap?

Not trying to be cute but just tying to better understand the value added by PPF? It seems most people will pay 💰 for the piece of mind of knowing their paint is protected without ever actually enjoying it. In the meantime, the wrapped car has to some extent a degraded depth of color and shine (albeit minor but still noticeable).

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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 10:10 PM
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You do you, Gables. Everyone has an opinion and nobody is forcing you one way or the other.
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This weekend, XPEL saved my Alfa Romeo 4C Spider from much more serious damage when a flying hubcap hit my car at speed. It was a totally unavoidable act of random awful. We’ll replace the PPF next week and it will be like new again. Without PPF, it would have been so much worse.




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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 10:24 PM
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Personal choice like many things, but personally I’ve never understood PPF. Wouldn’t go so far as to call it a scam but there always seem to be as many bad experiences with it as good ones, solution looking for a problem. On my white 997 I replaced the rear fender films more often then fixing any chips, because the panels went yellow.
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Old Apr 18, 2021 | 10:24 PM
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Glad you and the Alfa are safe!
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