Not finding the 992s exciting. Am I the only one?
#136
I wonder if I was living in a flat urban area whether I'd get bored with my 992. Roads matter. Around here the mountain roads have been closed for the snow season but current unseasonably warm weather means they'll begin to open. Motorcycles and sports cars are all of a sudden out and about, getting ready.
Totally different here in FL, you can use that stuff year round but the roads are all straight and flat as a pool table.
Hellcats are fun here.
#137
For me, the amount of traffic is the key factor. I no longer have to commute to work, so going out anytime during the week (except rush hours), was pure joy. Now, with COVID changing work habits, there are always people clogging up the road. Please, go back to work, people!! 🙏 👍
#138
Thank you everyone for your opinions, input, discussion and suggestions. Maybe a GT car is in my future.
That said, one thing that has me longing for my 992S again is having a dealer loaner Cayenne. Shortly after authoring this thread I had to my my car in the shop for a variety of recurring warranty items (this time it was the steering column), recurring check engine, validate the engine mount campaign, etc.). So I've been driving their base loaner car around for the past 10 days and well. All of the sudden my 992S seems a hell of a lot more inspiring. .
I know one thing for certain, like most of you, I haven't driven a car with < 400 HP in probably 8-9 years. I think perhaps I'm just not used to the power delivery of the 992S (previous cars were M3 ZCP, two 550s with tt v-8, panamera 4s). I'm actually looking forward to getting my car back and then driving it for a couple of weeks to see if some of the excitement is back. If not, someone's going to get a hell of a deal on my car.
That said, one thing that has me longing for my 992S again is having a dealer loaner Cayenne. Shortly after authoring this thread I had to my my car in the shop for a variety of recurring warranty items (this time it was the steering column), recurring check engine, validate the engine mount campaign, etc.). So I've been driving their base loaner car around for the past 10 days and well. All of the sudden my 992S seems a hell of a lot more inspiring. .
I know one thing for certain, like most of you, I haven't driven a car with < 400 HP in probably 8-9 years. I think perhaps I'm just not used to the power delivery of the 992S (previous cars were M3 ZCP, two 550s with tt v-8, panamera 4s). I'm actually looking forward to getting my car back and then driving it for a couple of weeks to see if some of the excitement is back. If not, someone's going to get a hell of a deal on my car.
#140
I disagree, having driven 911s to work every day for years. If anything, the car put a smile on my face after a long day at the office. Oftentimes, driving to and from work was the high point of my day. Taking the car out on weekends for fun is not mutually exclusive with appreciating the car every day. For most people, restricting their 911's for relatively infrequent back road runs will result in cars that rack up only two or three thousand miles a year. What a waste. Sure, after a while, any possession loses some of its initial luster, but that doesn't mean one shouldn't aspire to live in a great house because it's lived in every day, and not just on special occasions.
#141
Thank you everyone for your opinions, input, discussion and suggestions. Maybe a GT car is in my future.
That said, one thing that has me longing for my 992S again is having a dealer loaner Cayenne. Shortly after authoring this thread I had to my my car in the shop for a variety of recurring warranty items (this time it was the steering column), recurring check engine, validate the engine mount campaign, etc.). So I've been driving their base loaner car around for the past 10 days and well. All of the sudden my 992S seems a hell of a lot more inspiring. .
I know one thing for certain, like most of you, I haven't driven a car with < 400 HP in probably 8-9 years. I think perhaps I'm just not used to the power delivery of the 992S (previous cars were M3 ZCP, two 550s with tt v-8, panamera 4s). I'm actually looking forward to getting my car back and then driving it for a couple of weeks to see if some of the excitement is back. If not, someone's going to get a hell of a deal on my car.
That said, one thing that has me longing for my 992S again is having a dealer loaner Cayenne. Shortly after authoring this thread I had to my my car in the shop for a variety of recurring warranty items (this time it was the steering column), recurring check engine, validate the engine mount campaign, etc.). So I've been driving their base loaner car around for the past 10 days and well. All of the sudden my 992S seems a hell of a lot more inspiring. .
I know one thing for certain, like most of you, I haven't driven a car with < 400 HP in probably 8-9 years. I think perhaps I'm just not used to the power delivery of the 992S (previous cars were M3 ZCP, two 550s with tt v-8, panamera 4s). I'm actually looking forward to getting my car back and then driving it for a couple of weeks to see if some of the excitement is back. If not, someone's going to get a hell of a deal on my car.
Just a thought here that has been similarly expressed. First - I agree the 992 is too competent to feel exciting when driven sanely on public roads. An earlier - less competent car would require more "driving" than a 992. SO - if you decide to go to a GT car get a GT3 - not a GT3 RS - certainly not a GT2RS. Oh the latter 2 cars are phenomenal BUT they are really so competent that you'll have to go dangerously fast to feel like you need to drive the car. A GT2Rs drives like 50 mph when you're passing 100 mph. The performance is so easy you just don't feel like you need to do much but watch out for slow traffic. A 991 GT3 by comparison will down shift an extra gear or 2 (or 3) when you accelerate. The sound and feel of the car needing your attention is much greater at "slower" speeds. If you want to get REALLY excited buy a 996 GT3 and try to drive it at about 80 mph on a 2 lane country road. That car will require your full attention and at speed will hurt you if you blink slowly. You'll want another car to daily drive though unless you like the feel of a car making 9 cents change every time you turn or stop on a dime. I'm sure someone said this above - it's more exciting to drive a slow car fast than it is to drive a fast car slow. "Slow" in a modern Porsche 911 is still 100 MPH - so your pulse stays in rest mode most of the time. Want to change "meh" into "my god" - find a "lesser" Porsche GT3 for days when you want to drive and something else for transportation.
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#142
It would appear that your expectations could be the reason why you are "irritated". No one is obligated to get out of your way because you are driving a high performance sports car. The general public could care less about our cars capabilities or how aggressive any one else is in their approach to traffic. It is foolish to consider the other vehicles in traffic as blocking your way.
Last edited by phaser; 04-13-2021 at 11:53 AM.
#143
The roads in a persons regular area make all the difference in the world. We have great terrain and twisties back in Western PA where I used to live. Sports cars and sport bikes were a ball there.
Totally different here in FL, you can use that stuff year round but the roads are all straight and flat as a pool table.
Hellcats are fun here.
Totally different here in FL, you can use that stuff year round but the roads are all straight and flat as a pool table.
Hellcats are fun here.
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#144
Having owned a lot of cars, sometimes you want something raw and more edgy, like break dancing instead of the ballet that is Porsche.
Ever been in one of these? They are an experience. https://www.shelby.com/Vehicles/2020...nature-Mustang
Then other days cars like that Shelby are far too raw, and you appreciate the smoothness and capability of a 992.
Which ultimately is why you need a big garage, lots of money and a stable of cars. It's not easy to have one car do it all for you. Some days I prefer my Cayenne GTS with the noisy and brutal V8 engine, because its actually more hooligan than my 992S.
Ever been in one of these? They are an experience. https://www.shelby.com/Vehicles/2020...nature-Mustang
Then other days cars like that Shelby are far too raw, and you appreciate the smoothness and capability of a 992.
Which ultimately is why you need a big garage, lots of money and a stable of cars. It's not easy to have one car do it all for you. Some days I prefer my Cayenne GTS with the noisy and brutal V8 engine, because its actually more hooligan than my 992S.
#145
I'm sure by now the OP has sold his car but his disappointment should be a lesson learned for others who have expectations that cannot be met by the 992. I, for one, am not disappointed at all. I DD the car and have taken a 2500 mile trip. Plan to get it on the track as soon as I get my summer wheels. So, far, it has exceeded my expectations. It is not the lightweight, bang through the gears, and throw it around at street legal speeds car. But, I do manage to have fun with it most times I drive it. For those who want the former experience, in a new car, check out what Toyota has released outside the US. Seems like it might scratch that itch at a fraction of the cost of a 911. And with enough interest, they might bring it here...
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...han-you-think/
https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-hot-hatch/
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...han-you-think/
https://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/gr-hot-hatch/
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#149
Traffic can get heavy on the east coast in the zone from Palm Beach down through Miami. Never even considered living over there. No traffic jambs here in Bonita Springs even in season. Originally intended to keep our home in Western PA but ended up selling it because we just love it here and have no reason to return to all that dark, gray, depressing weather and absurd taxation.
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#150
Having owned a lot of cars, sometimes you want something raw and more edgy, like break dancing instead of the ballet that is Porsche.
Ever been in one of these? They are an experience. https://www.shelby.com/Vehicles/2020...nature-Mustang
Then other days cars like that Shelby are far too raw, and you appreciate the smoothness and capability of a 992.
Which ultimately is why you need a big garage, lots of money and a stable of cars. It's not easy to have one car do it all for you. Some days I prefer my Cayenne GTS with the noisy and brutal V8 engine, because its actually more hooligan than my 992S.
Ever been in one of these? They are an experience. https://www.shelby.com/Vehicles/2020...nature-Mustang
Then other days cars like that Shelby are far too raw, and you appreciate the smoothness and capability of a 992.
Which ultimately is why you need a big garage, lots of money and a stable of cars. It's not easy to have one car do it all for you. Some days I prefer my Cayenne GTS with the noisy and brutal V8 engine, because its actually more hooligan than my 992S.
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