John Mclane

PIWIS can code the spoiler as absent. It can also code multiple different heights fir different speeds.

Don't mess with the hardware alone, it will throw codes.

detansinn

Insurance companies do deny claims on those cars if the adjuster spots certain mods. For example, most Subarus with aftermarket front mount intercoolers don’t have front bumper bars (the actual steel bumper under the cover). It’s a risk that many owners take knowingly or unknowingly.

ipse dixit

This exactly.

And not only throw codes, but throw your car out of whack.

TheStanman

Removing a critical safety function is not the same adding some mostly aesthetic items (still some risk, but not as bad).

The 911 spoiler is not just aesthetic and is important for stability.

Tanqueray86

To be fair to the OP, he is adding an aftermarket wing...which most likely is bigger than our motorized spoilers and provide more downforce, hence, maybe more stability.

reddsektor

that argument wasn’t about the OP, it was about the other dude wanting to completely disable his stock active spoiler on purpose

John Mclane

Disabling the spoiler without a replacement wing is a bad idea as it comes. Beyond dangerous, it will throw a lot of errors.

When I mentioned earlier that you can disable it with PIWIS, that doesn't mean that's simple. Seeing first hand how it works, several modules are interconnected. I would not be surprised that the PSM takes or gives inputs to the spoiler. That alone opens a wide margin for errors to be thrown. So, while possible, coding with PIWIS is likely to be complicated . In al likelihood feasible but I would take it to someone that knows what they're doing (not always the dealer, actually seldom).

BIGWORM

That all might be true. But I had a Subaru STI that had a big ol massive wing that I removed for the WRX version. I hit a curb avoiding a red light runner and my insurance rep didnt bat an eye at the smaller wing. I mean no offense to you or anyone else in here about this. But I think you guys are taking this to extremes. If you disable your wing and you wreck. No one is going to even know the wing didnt work. Unless it looks damaged, they will most likey assume its working fine and fix what they see wrong.

ipse dixit

Except bigger does not mean better.

As proper downforce requires balance. Meaning bigger wing the back requires more downforce in the front. Otherwise, you get less stability.

wasabi4

OP: I think there's been plenty of feedback and side discussion. Maybe some pics of your car with the new spoiler will clear up concerns and questions! We're all interested in seeing your car!

BlitzedTT

Perhaps there is a setting that says "Aerokit wing Installed"?

I can't see why it would be overly complicated as there is already an OEM fixed wing option (Aerokit) and there are a number of aftermarket companies offering replacements such as TechArt and a few asian knock-offs.

aggie57

I'm not so sure; in the example you quote you replaced one Subaru part with another Subaru part and anyway that car was designed to be used without any wings at all. The 992 on the other hand is only sold with rear downforce, either active or passive like on a GT3 or Aerokit. What you say about how an assessor would handle a claim may be true but we've all heard or come across cases when small changes can be used as grounds for rejecting a claim, cars these days have all that stuff logged as well. As always it's caveat emptor, you pays your money and you takes your choice.

but did you die

Tell that to the GT3 Touring. The regular GT3 got the big wing with big downforce while the touring got the small spoiler with a lot less downforce. Same front bumper and aero everywhere else.

John Mclane

Yes, that's quite possible on the option menu (F7). There you setup whatever option you have and PIWIS will write all the modules pertaining that option.

ipse dixit

Incorrect.

The front aero is changed, as well as its design.

Evo goes into further detail, but here's the punchline:

Read it all here.