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Old 03-04-2021, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BIGWORM
I didnt even know we had a stationary rev limiter.
Originally Posted by mdrobc1213
yes....reason why it’s hard to get good exhaust clips cause car has hard stop around 3k was told when stationary in park. Maybe even neutral too...heard it remarked in a YouTube review also as to a negative on the car in their review along with the particulte Filters also on the exhausts...too tame and quiet.

Thus another justification for my Akrapovic purchase also shorty after placing my order for my car! Will do cats after a while and getting to enjoy it and new Akra sound at some point likely.
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But the Akrpovic exhaust doesn't change the stationary rev limiter, does it? This is the firs I'm hearing of the rev limiter when the car is in neutral. I remember my 2006 911 C2S cab also having some software in it that would not allow for left foot braking while on the accelerator. It would automatically remove the throttle input. Is this still the case as well?
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Old 03-04-2021, 07:47 AM
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So how does launch control work in the manual? you floor it with the clutch in, it revs to 3500, and you drop the clutch? Is that what I'm hearing here?
Old 03-04-2021, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiems
So how does launch control work in the manual? you floor it with the clutch in, it revs to 3500, and you drop the clutch? Is that what I'm hearing here?
Will leave that to others to answer, I've never tried.
Old 03-04-2021, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Tupper
Why?

And why do I always have to do things that are "good ideas"?

Buying a 992 wasn't a good idea either. I could've dropped that money into another blended mutual fund, I guess.....
You can do whatever you want. Not my car, i dgaf.

Originally Posted by AlterZgo
Really? These are 911s. THE quintessential Porsche. Once warmed up to operating temps, they can easily be revved to 5K RPM and even redline repeatedly in gear or in neutral without any harm at all to the engine.
Ohhhh because its a quintessential porsche...cool. typical new 911 forum comment. Heres a hint, just about every modern car has a neutral rev limiter set far below the loaded limiter.
Old 03-04-2021, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiems
So how does launch control work in the manual? you floor it with the clutch in, it revs to 3500, and you drop the clutch? Is that what I'm hearing here?
I thought MT cars did not have launch control?
Old 03-04-2021, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tupper
^ Sounds like a plan
Good luck. Was already covered: https://rennlist.com/forums/992/1187...l#post16503375

It's not just a park/idle rev limit, it's a no-load limit.
Old 03-04-2021, 05:11 PM
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Really not a good idea to rev an unloaded engine like that.
Old 03-05-2021, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Ohhhh because its a quintessential porsche...cool. typical new 911 forum comment. Heres a hint, just about every modern car has a neutral rev limiter set far below the loaded limiter.
Most manual cars don't have a neutral rev limiter. In fact, the 911 is the only manual car I can think of with this limitation. Point is, it's a sports car that's designed to be driven hard and 5K RPM is by no means high at all.

But hey, you're a forum vet so you must know what you're doing. Keep that 911 purring at 4900 RPM or less.

Old 03-05-2021, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
Most manual cars don't have a neutral rev limiter. In fact, the 911 is the only manual car I can think of with this limitation. Point is, it's a sports car that's designed to be driven hard and 5K RPM is by no means high at all.

But hey, you're a forum vet so you must know what you're doing. Keep that 911 purring at 4900 RPM or less.
My 2012 TTRS does in fact also have a rev limiter. Stopped at idle and rev, and it's limited to 4k RPM. Put it in sport mode, TCS to limitedSport or off and clutch in and the limit is lifted. I'm guessing it has a lot to do with wether the car thinks you're going to launch it. The limit is also lifted if you're rolling regardless of drive mode. Curious to see if the 992 MT does the same…

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Porsche PDK use to let you rev it in netural and clutch bomb it into 1st. (no I didn't do this, but a buddy in a 991 TTS did)

They also use to let you "kickdown" PDK too. Where you floor it and pull back once and it will drop many gears to sling shot you away (this worked in my 17 991.2 S, but not my 19 991.2 GTS).

Then they took away our PDK shifter. (nub)

And now you cant rev it in neutral.

Why do they keep taking options away from us???
Old 03-05-2021, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BIGWORM
Porsche PDK use to let you rev it in netural and clutch bomb it into 1st. (no I didn't do this, but a buddy in a 991 TTS did)

They also use to let you "kickdown" PDK too. Where you floor it and pull back once and it will drop many gears to sling shot you away (this worked in my 17 991.2 S, but not my 19 991.2 GTS).

Then they took away our PDK shifter. (nub)

And now you cant rev it in neutral.

Why do they keep taking options away from us???
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Old 03-05-2021, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
Most manual cars don't have a neutral rev limiter. In fact, the 911 is the only manual car I can think of with this limitation. Point is, it's a sports car that's designed to be driven hard and 5K RPM is by no means high at all.

But hey, you're a forum vet so you must know what you're doing. Keep that 911 purring at 4900 RPM or less.
Sigh. We are talking unloaded here. When under load i fully agree that all revs are fair game. When in neutral, unloaded free revving is not great for the motor. Sure for a split second or doing it a few times wont matter, just not something id make a habit of. That said, at the ripe old age of 37, i have zero need to free rev a car.
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If you at a stop light, free revving your car to max rpm so you can get a boner and impress those around you, you are 16 years old.

If you want to free rev to hear exhaust note, get a GoPro or some other recording device, the car under load sounds completely different.
Old 03-06-2021, 09:31 AM
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For those who want to hear high revs while sitting still. Get a good set of headphones!
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer
Sigh. We are talking unloaded here. When under load i fully agree that all revs are fair game. When in neutral, unloaded free revving is not great for the motor. Sure for a split second or doing it a few times wont matter, just not something id make a habit of. That said, at the ripe old age of 37, i have zero need to free rev a car.
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Originally Posted by AlterZgo
Most manual cars don't have a neutral rev limiter. In fact, the 911 is the only manual car I can think of with this limitation. Point is, it's a sports car that's designed to be driven hard and 5K RPM is by no means high at all.

But hey, you're a forum vet so you must know what you're doing. Keep that 911 purring at 4900 RPM or less.
Actually my 2014 had and my 2017 BMW has a rev limiter without load. My 115 HP Mini let's me rev away. I have never missed revving high in neutral. The sound is different when free revving without load and yes, I will happily hang out at the red line under load, but its really not smart in neutral.

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