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I've gotten used to the shaver so much that it's weird to drive older Porsche SUVs with gigantic gear levers that does exactly what a small shaver or three small buttons would do. An automatic gear selector that "looks" like a manual shifter is not really for me anymore.
Yes big brother listens, and the group has spoken we all hated the shaver. (:
Please don't speak for "all" as I can't agree. Honestly, it's just a drive selector and not a shifter. I can't understand why a lot of people have their panties in a wad over the "razor" not being a shifter. What's the difference of using the gear selector in the picture over the paddle shifters? You are selecting the gear on the center console instead of the paddles which are conveniently accessible on the wheel without taking your hands off of it. The last time that I watched an F1 and IMSA race everyone was shifting with a paddle. Maybe there is a reason for this?
I am always surprised by a group of people who are supposedly performance oriented but hate any advancements in technology. This is why I have cars with old technology (gated shifter) and newer cars like the 992 with the latest advancements in technology and performance.
Please don't speak for "all" as I can't agree. Honestly, it's just a drive selector and not a shifter. I can't understand why a lot of people have their panties in a wad over the "razor" not being a shifter. What's the difference of using the gear selector in the picture over the paddle shifters? You are selecting the gear on the center console instead of the paddles which are conveniently accessible on the wheel without taking your hands off of it. The last time that I watched an F1 and IMSA race everyone was shifting with a paddle. Maybe there is a reason for this?
I am always surprised by a group of people who are supposedly performance oriented but hate any advancements in technology. This is why I have cars with old technology (gated shifter) and newer cars like the 992 with the latest advancements in technology and performance.
Lets rephrase, many of us hated the nubin and Porsche changed it. Sorry for the all comment ...........don’t think we have too many F1 drivers here. You do know the nubin is not a shifter .......the current GT3 PDK is a shifter.
Lets rephrase, many of us hated the nubin and Porsche changed it. Sorry for the all comment ...........don’t think we have too many F1 drivers here. You do know the nubin is not a shifter .......the current GT3 PDK is a shifter.
I have always stayed out of this debate but please explain to me why the GT3 PDK is better in performance then the nubin with the same paddle shifters. Not asking to be controversial but truly want to understand someone else's point of view on why this is better. Why is manually selecting the gear without a clutch better from the center console than behind the wheel where both your hands should be during spirited driving?
Please don't speak for "all" as I can't agree. Honestly, it's just a drive selector and not a shifter. I can't understand why a lot of people have their panties in a wad over the "razor" not being a shifter. What's the difference of using the gear selector in the picture over the paddle shifters? You are selecting the gear on the center console instead of the paddles which are conveniently accessible on the wheel without taking your hands off of it. The last time that I watched an F1 and IMSA race everyone was shifting with a paddle. Maybe there is a reason for this?
I am always surprised by a group of people who are supposedly performance oriented but hate any advancements in technology. This is why I have cars with old technology (gated shifter) and newer cars like the 992 with the latest advancements in technology and performance.
Except the GT team at Porsche treat it like a shifter. They prefer it over paddles, Preuninger is on record recently saying so.
I have always stayed out of this debate but please explain to me why the GT3 PDK is better in performance then the nubin with the same paddle shifters. Not asking to be controversial but truly want to understand someone else's point of view on why this is better. Why is manually selecting the gear without a clutch better from the center console than behind the wheel where both your hands should be during spirited driving?
Not sure it’s a debate when you’re the only one in the thread that likes the nubin to start. This if not a technology advancement discussion/preference, and I think you can ask Porsche why they listened to the customers. Now your question when I tracked my RS times I used the paddles, and the majority of the time I used the shifter. It’s preference, and the nubin is not a shifter so an option was removed. If you prefer the nubin, and get a GT3 you have zero impact and can use the paddles right? Again you’re the only one in the thread that likes the nubin, and it may be a better question for why you like it .....not being a jerk but curious?
Except the GT team at Porsche treat it like a shifter. They prefer it over paddles, Preuninger is on record recently saying so.
I don't know as it seems like a lot of drama over nothing. Here is a pic of the latest GT spec car and for some reason, I can't seem to find the gear selector on the center console. I did notice the paddle shifters though. I am a quantitative person over subjective, just looking for some data that says that a center console gear selector with a PDK transmission is better than the paddle shifters that do the same thing....without taking your hands off the wheel.
Porsche substituting the 992 "nubbin" selector for the GT3 in favor of an in-console selector that also shifts gears isn't a technology "advancement"...they simply dragged the 7-speed 991.2 PDK gearbox out of the parts bin and put a different lever on it. Attempting to fake the look of a manual shifter lever on a PDK gearbox - including a shift boot - is pretty cheesy in my books. Not the kind of "honest design" I've come to expect from Porsche.
^^ Perhaps you should write to Porsche as they choose not to put the shaver in the GT3, and you’re the only one that’s concerned with the change. There has been threads on this in the past, and your view is one of very few that likes the shaver .....hence it was removed.
Last edited by Maverick787; 02-17-2021 at 02:21 AM.
Porsche substituting the 992 "nubbin" selector for the GT3 in favor of an in-console selector that also shifts gears isn't a technology "advancement"...they simply dragged the 7-speed 991.2 PDK gearbox out of the parts bin and put a different lever on it. Attempting to fake the look of a manual shifter lever on a PDK gearbox - including a shift boot - is pretty cheesy in my books. Not the kind of "honest design" I've come to expect from Porsche.
I agree. I guess some prefer their cars to pretend it’s something it’s not. The faux PDK shifter is just that - a fake manual shifter. I never used the bump shifter in the 991 & have always preferred paddle shifting - especially on track. If I wanted to grip a shifter to punch the gears up & down - I’d just buy a MT! The best part of the PDK in manual mode is the ability to keep both hands on the wheel while controlling the gears. YMMV
I don't know as it seems like a lot of drama over nothing. Here is a pic of the latest GT spec car and for some reason, I can't seem to find the gear selector on the center console. I did notice the paddle shifters though. I am a quantitative person over subjective, just looking for some data that says that a center console gear selector with a PDK transmission is better than the paddle shifters that do the same thing....without taking your hands off the wheel.
Irrelevant. That’s a race car, we’re talking road cars here.
Irrelevant. That’s a race car, we’re talking road cars here.
Still waiting to hear why a PDK shifter on the center console is any better than using the paddles.....even for a road car. Back to the point that if it was better then the factory race cars would be supporting this....which they are not. People are creating drama because they just can't accept change. And again, this is why I have old school cars and modern cars to enjoy both.
It would be refreshing for someone to simply say they like to manually select gears with a fake center console shifter over the paddles because that is what they are used to in a sports car. Instead, many forum forum members just bash a gear selector because its not a shifter which is was not intended to be.
Still waiting to hear why a PDK shifter on the center console is any better than using the paddles.....even for a road car.
It would be refreshing for someone to simply say they like to manually select gears with a fake center console shifter over the paddles because that is what they are used to in a sports car
I think you’ll find your answer in the pre-release video by Chris Harris. Preuninger said exactly that.