The new GT3 PDK gear
#62
Does this include the 992 aerokit? Personally, I love it.
The wonderful thing about having options, is that we can each build the car we want. From where I'm sitting, I'd like to have the option of the new GT3 style shifter, if I was buying PDK.
I'm buying manual, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
The wonderful thing about having options, is that we can each build the car we want. From where I'm sitting, I'd like to have the option of the new GT3 style shifter, if I was buying PDK.
I'm buying manual, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .
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Texas BA (03-03-2021)
#63
Pet peeve and a silly gripe, I know. The shaver is not the most elegant solution, but it is honest.
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surquhar (02-17-2021)
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dhirm5 (02-17-2021)
#65
The 8spd PDK is never going to get a shifter like the 7spd PDK because the 8 spd box was not engineered with any of the control systems to allow changing of the gears via the centre console.
Also, it is nonsense to say that Porsche "listened" to their customers and brought back the shifter for the 992 GT3. It uses the existing 7spd PDK so was always going to have a shifter in the centre console. Indeed, it's the only way you can select Reverse, Neutral, Drive, etc. It simply does not have any of the systems engineered in to support anything else.
Also, it is nonsense to say that Porsche "listened" to their customers and brought back the shifter for the 992 GT3. It uses the existing 7spd PDK so was always going to have a shifter in the centre console. Indeed, it's the only way you can select Reverse, Neutral, Drive, etc. It simply does not have any of the systems engineered in to support anything else.
#66
By control systems I do not mean linkages. Rather it is all the supporting systems required for support the PDK shifter including the electronics and the physical mechanisms underneath that allow you to shift the stick to side to side and forward and back, etc, None of that has been designed into the 8spd architecture and Porsche have no intention of changing it. And that’s directly from Porsche.
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smiles11 (02-17-2021)
#67
#68
This right here is the kind of thing that would bother me and I could easily see it happening. I hate trying to "explain" things. "No it's not a manual, it's just looks like one....yes, I know, a manual would have been cool".
Pet peeve and a silly gripe, I know. The shaver is not the most elegant solution, but it is honest.
Pet peeve and a silly gripe, I know. The shaver is not the most elegant solution, but it is honest.
#69
#70
If it was purely a drive mode selector, like the nubbin, but fashioned as a faux manual shifter....that's cheesy.
As others have pointed out, console mounted manual shifting could be more involved (though I presume the nubbin is all electronic, so I don't know that it's unsurmountable).
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By control systems I do not mean linkages. Rather it is all the supporting systems required for support the PDK shifter including the electronics and the physical mechanisms underneath that allow you to shift the stick to side to side and forward and back, etc, None of that has been designed into the 8spd architecture and Porsche have no intention of changing it. And that’s directly from Porsche.
#72
#73
By control systems I do not mean linkages. Rather it is all the supporting systems required for support the PDK shifter including the electronics and the physical mechanisms underneath that allow you to shift the stick to side to side and forward and back, etc, None of that has been designed into the 8spd architecture and Porsche have no intention of changing it. And that’s directly from Porsche.
How is that? Directly from Porsche
#74
Porsche is an engineering powerhouse but no way they could make this shifter work with the 8-speed. Too hard.
Jk. Shifter design and minor functionality changes are easy for automatics. Manufacturers make these changes all the time on the same trans unit - buttons, scroll wheels, etc.
GT3 using this design was a conscious decision due to team preferences. Watch Chris Harris drive and you'll see the same for him. I do prefer having it as an option, but I'm also ok with shaver shifter after living with it.
Will Porsche offer it on non-GT cars? Maybe - I could see it as a $2K option. Could also see them keeping it special for the GT3.
Jk. Shifter design and minor functionality changes are easy for automatics. Manufacturers make these changes all the time on the same trans unit - buttons, scroll wheels, etc.
GT3 using this design was a conscious decision due to team preferences. Watch Chris Harris drive and you'll see the same for him. I do prefer having it as an option, but I'm also ok with shaver shifter after living with it.
Will Porsche offer it on non-GT cars? Maybe - I could see it as a $2K option. Could also see them keeping it special for the GT3.
#75
I don't mind the small shaver shifter, its grown on me as I use it. I think a big shifter would block the AC and Fan switches. While this is ok on manua, you use the shifter, for a PDK, a small shifter like our mini-braun, or buttons like other super cars is the way to go
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