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Old 09-14-2023, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jonbek
I drove a GT3 today, and I definitely would not say the Touring is a baby GT3, thats definitely not correct. That being said, dang I wish our cars could have had lightweight buckets, they do a lot to make you feel more focused in the car.
Its a $5900 option in the states, but a PITA for a daily driver
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:41 AM
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Hi all

For anyone who has taken their T to the track, what settings did you run on both PSM and the Sport Chrono drive mode selector? I’m assuming PSM Sport and Sport+, correct?

My 997.2 did not have Sport Chrono or PASM, and PSM was simply On or Off with no intermediate setting. So, my only setting was PSM On. Same as normal street driving. Never had any issues with PSM coming on in an unwanted fashion - only when I messed up badly enough that my lap was shot anyway.

I’ve heard however that in a 992 the PSM On setting can unexpectedly brake the rear wheels during high speed, but still under control, maneuvers. So I’m leaning toward the partially off PSM Sport setting. I’ve done a couple of sessions in the Intermediate (aka uninstructed) run group, and am not a total beginner. However, this will be my first time at this particular track and first time in the T.

Should I be worried that I’m going to put myself into a wall with anything less than full PSM On? Also, PSM and Sport Chrono are independent, right? The Sport+ drive mode doesn’t alter the PSM setting, does it? Don’t want to accidentally compound the reduction in traction control/stability management.

Thanks in advance

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Old 09-15-2023, 01:05 AM
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T-minus 14 days. Car arrived at PEC yesterday and I pick up on 9/28.





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Old 09-15-2023, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Schn3ll
It's possible to spec a car with less than $10k in options?

I ended up with just under $20k
Tough to do only $4k. Mine is a relatively basic build. Excluding the PEC delivery, $4200 in options, $1600 of which is the Bose system.

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Old 09-15-2023, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadworrier
Tough to do only $4k. Mine is a relatively basic build. Excluding the PEC delivery, $4200 in options, $1600 of which is the Bose system.

It's challenging. I have to do FAL because of my brutal driveway. And SD bumper because I struggle with the stock front. Just there 6k...add paint, leather...
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Old 09-15-2023, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cgaites
Hi all

For anyone who has taken their T to the track, what settings did you run on both PSM and the Sport Chrono drive mode selector? I’m assuming PSM Sport and Sport+, correct?

My 997.2 did not have Sport Chrono or PASM, and PSM was simply On or Off with no intermediate setting. So, my only setting was PSM On. Same as normal street driving. Never had any issues with PSM coming on in an unwanted fashion - only when I messed up badly enough that my lap was shot anyway.

I’ve heard however that in a 992 the PSM On setting can unexpectedly brake the rear wheels during high speed, but still under control, maneuvers. So I’m leaning toward the partially off PSM Sport setting. I’ve done a couple of sessions in the Intermediate (aka uninstructed) run group, and am not a total beginner. However, this will be my first time at this particular track and first time in the T.

Should I be worried that I’m going to put myself into a wall with anything less than full PSM On? Also, PSM and Sport Chrono are independent, right? The Sport+ drive mode doesn’t alter the PSM setting, does it? Don’t want to accidentally compound the reduction in traction control/stability management.

Thanks in advance
If you're new to the track experience, just put the car in Sport. Don't touch the PSM switch at all. The 911 PSM is excellent at helping in the background. It will NOT suddenly do anything that upsets the car or driver. On the contrary, you won't even notice it doing its thing. It will make you think you're a better driver than you are.

PSM in Sport mode will allow more yaw, some tire slippage. You can play with this, but if you're worried about the wall at all, then don't mess with fire and leave it on, as I said. You'll still have a ton of fun 😊
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:26 AM
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Question for the group. Do y’all let your car warm up for a few minutes until the RPMs drop and/or oil temp goes up to any specific temperature? I heard somewhere that car idling at 1200 or so is because of software and emission requirements and has nothing to do any kind of warm up requirement, don’t know if it’s actually true.

Usually I let the car warm up for a couple of minutes before driving but someone recently told me that it’s better to just get in and go and let all of the components warm up together as you are driving. I tried just starting it up and driving, but the car felt a little jerky in first and second for the first few minutes of driving, didn’t feel right.
Old 09-15-2023, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NewTo911s

Clean Shark Blue in the sunshine in Rimini. Loving T life.
Gorgeous. Shark really pops and highlights the beauty of the SportDesign rear bumper.
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Old 09-15-2023, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NewTo911s

Clean Shark Blue in the sunshine in Rimini. Loving T life.
blue shark in its natural habitat
Old 09-15-2023, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam
If you're new to the track experience, just put the car in Sport. Don't touch the PSM switch at all. The 911 PSM is excellent at helping in the background. It will NOT suddenly do anything that upsets the car or driver. On the contrary, you won't even notice it doing its thing. It will make you think you're a better driver than you are.

PSM in Sport mode will allow more yaw, some tire slippage. You can play with this, but if you're worried about the wall at all, then don't mess with fire and leave it on, as I said. You'll still have a ton of fun 😊
Thank you. I’ll leave the PSM set to full on - at least for a few sessions until I am comfortable with the car & track.
Old 09-15-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex.In.M0tion
Question for the group. Do y’all let your car warm up for a few minutes until the RPMs drop and/or oil temp goes up to any specific temperature? I heard somewhere that car idling at 1200 or so is because of software and emission requirements and has nothing to do any kind of warm up requirement, don’t know if it’s actually true.

Usually I let the car warm up for a couple of minutes before driving but someone recently told me that it’s better to just get in and go and let all of the components warm up together as you are driving. I tried just starting it up and driving, but the car felt a little jerky in first and second for the first few minutes of driving, didn’t feel right.
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Best thing to do is just get in the car and drive. No pre-drive warmup required. Getting in and driving right away warms up everything the fastest which reduces wear. Obviously be ginger with the RPMs during warm up.

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Old 09-15-2023, 12:13 PM
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I believe the warm up cycle is specifically for the cats but I could be wrong. I think i read in one of the manuals they recommend driving away right after starting the car rather than let it sit.
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex.In.M0tion
Question for the group. Do y’all let your car warm up for a few minutes until the RPMs drop and/or oil temp goes up to any specific temperature? I heard somewhere that car idling at 1200 or so is because of software and emission requirements and has nothing to do any kind of warm up requirement, don’t know if it’s actually true.

Usually I let the car warm up for a couple of minutes before driving but someone recently told me that it’s better to just get in and go and let all of the components warm up together as you are driving. I tried just starting it up and driving, but the car felt a little jerky in first and second for the first few minutes of driving, didn’t feel right.
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Best thing to do is just get in the car and drive. No warmup required. Getting in and driving right away warms up everything the fastest which reduces wear. Obviously be ginger with the RPMs during warm up.
Exactly this. The higher revs are indeed just an emissions target. The goal is to quickly get the cats hot to make them as effective and efficient as possible sooner.
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Old 09-15-2023, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by AdamIsAdam
If you're new to the track experience, just put the car in Sport. Don't touch the PSM switch at all. The 911 PSM is excellent at helping in the background. It will NOT suddenly do anything that upsets the car or driver. On the contrary, you won't even notice it doing its thing. It will make you think you're a better driver than you are.

PSM in Sport mode will allow more yaw, some tire slippage. You can play with this, but if you're worried about the wall at all, then don't mess with fire and leave it on, as I said. You'll still have a ton of fun 😊
I second this. I'm not a track guy, and haven't put my T on the track. But I drove an S in the rain at PEC ATL on the West Track and while driving the instructor changed various settings. At no time did the car do anything unexpected regardless of the mode, and honestly the only time I noticed PASM - was when it was off.
Old 09-15-2023, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Cachaco
Check one out in real life. Configurator doesn't reflect the color accurately. It's less glossy and less Barbie pink.
I would agree with that assessment. Not good for those of us that wanted it to be more "Barbie" pink.


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