4 way vs 18 way
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On a side note, I'd say one of the only things I like better about the 18S+ over the 4S+ is being able to configure a "bucket" style seating position (angling the seat bottom & tightening the bolsters). Then you can subsequently save that seating position into one of the memory functions. Having one saved for better ingress/egress, and one saved for "bucket" positioning, and the 3rd memory to help pull the seat all the way forward and down for rear access. The 4S+ can't tilt the seat bottom, or adjust the bolsters. Though 4S+ is the one I'd choose.
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I find it to be the other way around. 4-way/14-way feels like I'm floating on top of the seat. No bolstering to hug you in, and definitely not the best if you go on spirited drives or track. 4S+/18S+ feels like I'm in the car. YMMV of course
On a side note, I'd say one of the only things I like better about the 18S+ over the 4S+ is being able to configure a "bucket" style seating position (angling the seat bottom & tightening the bolsters). Then you can subsequently save that seating position into one of the memory functions. Having one saved for better ingress/egress, and one saved for "bucket" positioning, and the 3rd memory to help pull the seat all the way forward and down for rear access. The 4S+ can't tilt the seat bottom, or adjust the bolsters. Though 4S+ is the one I'd choose.
On a side note, I'd say one of the only things I like better about the 18S+ over the 4S+ is being able to configure a "bucket" style seating position (angling the seat bottom & tightening the bolsters). Then you can subsequently save that seating position into one of the memory functions. Having one saved for better ingress/egress, and one saved for "bucket" positioning, and the 3rd memory to help pull the seat all the way forward and down for rear access. The 4S+ can't tilt the seat bottom, or adjust the bolsters. Though 4S+ is the one I'd choose.
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I ordered the Sport-Tex interior so my only choices were 4 ways or 18 ways. I went with the 18 ways for a couple of reasons. Both my wife and I will drive the car, so the memory function is important. I'm short and thin (a tad over 5'4 and around 120 pounds), so the more adjustments I have, the better. My wife's 997 has manual fore/aft and height adjustment, and I can never find a super comfortable seating position.
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The seat bottom bolsters may be a little tight if you are generously sized. Fits perfectly for me, but my BMI is normal (which, oddly enough, is not normal in the US)
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My understanding is that in the 991, the 4-ways sit a bit lower than the 18-ways, perhaps due to less bits and bobs down below the 4-way seats. Do the 4-ways of the 992 also sit lower than the 18-ways?
At 6' & ~175 lbs, I'd like to think 4-ways will give me what I need. The lack of electric adjustment on the steering column and no auto-tilt for the side mirror is a tad annoying (c'mon Porsche, a la carte these things!), but I think I can manage without them. I was initially sold out to 18-ways, but the 4-way/18-way price delta is becoming more glaring to my eye by the day.
At 6' & ~175 lbs, I'd like to think 4-ways will give me what I need. The lack of electric adjustment on the steering column and no auto-tilt for the side mirror is a tad annoying (c'mon Porsche, a la carte these things!), but I think I can manage without them. I was initially sold out to 18-ways, but the 4-way/18-way price delta is becoming more glaring to my eye by the day.
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My understanding is that in the 991, the 4-ways sit a bit lower than the 18-ways, perhaps due to less bits and bobs down below the 4-way seats. Do the 4-ways of the 992 also sit lower than the 18-ways?
At 6' & ~175 lbs, I'd like to think 4-ways will give me what I need. The lack of electric adjustment on the steering column and no auto-tilt for the side mirror is a tad annoying (c'mon Porsche, a la carte these things!), but I think I can manage without them. I was initially sold out to 18-ways, but the 4-way/18-way price delta is becoming more glaring to my eye by the day.
At 6' & ~175 lbs, I'd like to think 4-ways will give me what I need. The lack of electric adjustment on the steering column and no auto-tilt for the side mirror is a tad annoying (c'mon Porsche, a la carte these things!), but I think I can manage without them. I was initially sold out to 18-ways, but the 4-way/18-way price delta is becoming more glaring to my eye by the day.
I actually think the manual steering column adjust is very nice and very much what I want (obviously I’m ok w manual seat controls so no surprise), and while I do miss the reverse mirror dip, I have gotten used to deploying my left fingertip to “manually” tilt it when needed.
You mentioned cost for wanting the 4 ways, but the weight savings is certainly nice too.
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I had 991.2 18ways and now have 992 4-way sports+, I don’t think there’s a height difference, but regardless, I’m 6’4 and have a ton of headroom in both cars (one had sunroof one didn’t).
I actually think the manual steering column adjust is very nice and very much what I want (obviously I’m ok w manual seat controls so no surprise), and while I do miss the reverse mirror dip, I have gotten used to deploying my left fingertip to “manually” tilt it when needed.
You mentioned cost for wanting the 4 ways, but the weight savings is certainly nice too.
I actually think the manual steering column adjust is very nice and very much what I want (obviously I’m ok w manual seat controls so no surprise), and while I do miss the reverse mirror dip, I have gotten used to deploying my left fingertip to “manually” tilt it when needed.
You mentioned cost for wanting the 4 ways, but the weight savings is certainly nice too.
Glad to hear you like the manual steering column adjustment. Is it fairly smooth to operate? Every tester I've been in is electric, haven't had the chance to test the operation of a manual steering column in the 992.
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Since making the move from 18-way to 4-way, do you miss the lack of adjustment behind the knee area?
Glad to hear you like the manual steering column adjustment. Is it fairly smooth to operate? Every tester I've been in is electric, haven't had the chance to test the operation of a manual steering column in the 992.
Glad to hear you like the manual steering column adjustment. Is it fairly smooth to operate? Every tester I've been in is electric, haven't had the chance to test the operation of a manual steering column in the 992.
On the steering column, it’s easy to do, is be shocked if anyone found it cumbersome, though I’m sure if two drivers of different sizes shared the helm they’d appreciate the memory seat/wheel settings.
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I just learned I do not have reverse passenger side mirror tilt because I have 4 ways. I can live without it. But that's lame. The lack of motorized forward and backward is lame too. I will not do 4 ways again.
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I'm 6'3", my car has 18 ways and a sunroof; no issue at all with headroom and I don't have the seat fully lowered. I also don't have it fully back. I do like the way it moves back and the steering wheel lifts when I get in and out though.
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I've owned all the Porsche seats, many at the same time, and I rank them: LWBs>4 way SS+>18 ways SS+>14ways.
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I guess if you change seat settings all the time, it may be a chore but how hard is it to pull the lever and slide the seat? And it's way faster. Once I set the seat, I don't move it much and getting in the back with a motor is tiresome. Especially if you are getting things in and out. Sliders is one of the reasons I got 4 ways.
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I guess if you change seat settings all the time, it may be a chore but how hard is it to pull the lever and slide the seat? And it's way faster. Once I set the seat, I don't move it much and getting in the back with a motor is tiresome. Especially if you are getting things in and out. Sliders is one of the reasons I got 4 ways.
The big *** handle is ugly too. Plus it gets in the way of my custom cup holder. lol.
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