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Old 11-30-2019, 09:09 PM
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It's so weird how I loved loved the shape of a 991.2 and now it looks so outdated. The rear end looks weird and the spoiler deployed on the freeway is so tiny. The rounded hood needs sharp edges.

Does anyone else notice this? Pictures still don't do the 992 justice. But up close and personal. What a beast.
Old 11-30-2019, 09:17 PM
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It happens with every new model on the road. When the 991 arrived, it just looked so low and wide compared to the 997. When Tesla facelifted the Model S, the pre facelift cars looked immediately dated.

This is why, if you want to sell your car and get the most money for it, sell it before the next generation lands.
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Old 11-30-2019, 09:44 PM
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I was in the market not too long ago between getting a 991.2 and 992, also had a few other non-P cars that were in the mix.

It really came down to getting a car I always dreamed of buying in the 911.. especially now that I am at a point in my life that makes this dream possible.

After extensive research and comparisons, I came down to the final choice between the 991.2 and 992.

I found myself holding back on the 991.2, even with great deals available when I was comparing it to the 992. Several things stood out to me that ultimately helped me make my decision.

As for the exterior. The new design rear end is my favorite part. The round dominating wide stance along with the 3D light bar just adds to the perfect curves on the rear. A definitive design upgrade over the 991 IMO. With that said, the 992 standard front end turned me off with the massive smiling plastic compared to the the 991 keeping a classic Porsche look (however the 992 remedied this with a sport design option). I love the look of the 991 and the 992, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

However, the interior is what made the 991.2 look 15+ years outdated. The 991 uses matte plastic and a small screen that reminds me of an old ‘05 Lexus. The technology of a 2019 Porsche should not be that of an old early turn of the century car. The screen and the gauges needed to make a significant leap in technology, which they did. I still think the 991 has character inside and out, but it is dated. I believe the lack in tech should and still looks good for the high-end performance targeted variants of the 911 (i.e. Turbos, GT3, GT2RS).. but the base, S, GTS needed a GT oriented interior, and the 992 put the 911 on par with the competition.

This doesn’t go without saying the 992 doesn’t have its flaws on the interior. Not a fan of the black shiny plastic center console which seems to be an option for many high end manufacturers to blend the screens with the rest of the car. Though I do like it a lot better than the matte plastic overload of buttons and trim that we see in the 991. I don’t like having to pay extra for upgrade trims in the 992, though you must to avoid that awful plastic look.

I know the obscured gauges are a big talking point, though I haven’t had an issue myself with it. And the infamous “nubbin” has been an even more polarizing subject. Though I feel it blends with the 992 cockpit well, and the bulbous style shifter of old needed to go.

Don’t get me wrong. The 991 still has great style and character, but the 992 has just made it look so outdated!! I will however be with the purists when the 992 starts rolling out the high end variants, and hopefully they don’t have an overload of “tech”. Those cars are designer for one purpose in mind, performance and speed.

The 992 and it’s current variants NEEDED to take a big step up and bring the overall feel of the car into the 21st century.

What are your guys thoughts comparing both?

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here we go again!!
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Old 11-30-2019, 11:25 PM
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I much prefer the rear of the 991.2. Far more elegant and refined than than 992's primative and simplistic horizontal light and expanse of dead space to the diffuser. Porsche's attempt at a minimalist, futuristic design looks crude, simple and unrefined compared to the outgoing design.

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It's amazing how conditioned we have become to the "must have the latest/greatest" syndrome.

If you like the 992, buy one, but denigrating the other models, which look perfectly fine to many, myself included, seems a bit myopic.
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Porsche as a manufacturer does better here than most. To me, no Porsche looks outdated only period appropriate. Tomato - tomato right, but I think the difference is with Porsche the previous styling is still attractive unlike many of their counterparts where once a new model is released, the previous styling looks as though something was done wrong on the prior car and it has now been set right.
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The 911 is and always has been eclectic from the very first to the 992. The concept of any 911 being "outdated" is, well strange. For instance does anyone consider a Singer "outdated"? A 964 tub back dated then modernized. Other examples abound but I think most P car guys get my gist.
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It's all just personal preference. One person's "dated" is another person's "classic." Buy what makes you happy and drive the snot out of it.
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Old 12-01-2019, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BSO
It's amazing how conditioned we have become to the "must have the latest/greatest" syndrome.

If you like the 992, buy one, but denigrating the other models, which look perfectly fine to many, myself included, seems a bit myopic.
Heh? Lol!

i dunno. I am a 911 lover and owned and raced just about every 911 model since the early 1980s . . . When I was 15/16 so I don’t date myself too bad.

The 991 . . . I just couldn’t warm up to it. I had 2 991 Turbos and just ditched my 2017 Turbo to go back to my 6th 997, a 2012 GTS.

I actually kinda dig the 992 and will go ahead and jump on a 992 Turbo. There is just something about the 991 I just cannot get around, especially the NA or non “Turbo” models. The 991 Turbos still somewhat have that bad boy vibe. The non-Turbo and non GT3s don’t.

I am going to get flamed for this, but the non-Turbo 991s look feminine to me. Perfect for my wife to drive, just not for me. She, however, also prefers the 997 over the 991.
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Go post this on the 991 board.

Go ahead i dare you.
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​​​​Let me say that I will be among the first in line for a 992 Turbo S despite aesthetic regrets.

However, ​​​​​not only is the 991 rear design much more elegant and timeless in my opinion than the crude and unrefined 992, the center console nubin and gloss black blank panel is comical. And the large central analog tach flanked by dual LEDs!!?? Cartoonish! Like a mini Cooper. Come-on Porsche!
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Actually, I think the rear end of the 992 is what looks weird, and I've seen it in person. The horizontal light bar with the really low license plate make it look awkward, as does the "bacon strip" stop lights. I also don't like the clam-shaped spoiler. The sport design rear puts the license plate in the right spot, but then the two painted pieces at the bottom are odd. However, I think the 992 front looks great. I like the hood creases and wider front fenders. Overall though, I much prefer the look of the 991, which is why I ordered a brand new one AFTER the 992 was released. Yes, I realize not many people would do that (though there are others on this forum who did the same thing), but that's how much more I like the 991.2.

If you like the look of the 992, good for you and I hope (and guess) that sales will be successful. I'm more curious about the 992.2 and whether there will be a hybrid version that improves power and performance, and doesn't result in weight gain (or too much gain, it's already heavy enough).
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Different strokes for different folks. I prefer the one on the right.


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