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Old 08-24-2019, 12:35 PM
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Default 992 GT3 touring to get GT4 4.0

Looks like it 992 GT3 touring will have a "street" derived 4.0 not the race engine of the 991.2. At least it is still N/A.

https://carbuzz.com/news/there-s-something-special-about-this-porsche-911
Old 08-24-2019, 12:44 PM
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Huh? makes no sense
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On the 718 GT4 launch they telegraphed that the new 4.0 would be used in other models. It is also clearly detuned in the GT4 (both torque and HP). There are only a couple logical homes for a ~460 hp NA flat 6, either a GT4 RS or a purist 911 (or both).

If I were Porsche I would keep the 992 GT3 Touring with the proper Motorsports engine and ~525 hp. I would add a new normally aspirated model at ~455 hp with a more road biased suspension setup similar to the 911R at a ~25k discount. That car would share the GT3’s existing exhaust and particle filter for cost and emissions reasons. Some random reporter would hear rumors and see photos of that car and come to the incorrect click-bait conclusion that the next Touring would lose the GT3 engine. And I would see that article and chuckle.
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Nobody knows until it's announced. All click bait until then.
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Originally Posted by Berjar
Looks like it 992 GT3 touring will have a "street" derived 4.0 not the race engine of the 991.2. At least it is still N/A.

https://carbuzz.com/news/there-s-som...is-porsche-911

Journalist is a complete moron. Of course the 992 GT3 Touring will get the same race derived 4.0L NA engine that’s going in the 992 winged GT3.
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If the next "Touring" will only get the 9A2 EVO from the GT4/Spyder.

Then soon we'll all have 3 choices;

911R with non-CUP engine - Good choice

992 Touring car with 9A2 EVO from the 718 CUP and waze compatibility - Better choice

GT3 Touring with full-on 911 Motorsport engine and waze compatibility - Best choice

In fairness the R will probably remain as the best car for cars & coffee but I had to consider hundreds of variables to come to this conclusion.
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Originally Posted by Petevb

If I were Porsche I would keep the 992 GT3 Touring with the proper Motorsports engine and ~525 hp. I would add a new normally aspirated model at ~455 hp with a more road biased suspension setup similar to the 911R at a ~25k discount.
That kind of car would cannibalize the GTS, though.
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Originally Posted by Petevb
On the 718 GT4 launch they telegraphed that the new 4.0 would be used in other models. It is also clearly detuned in the GT4 (both torque and HP). There are only a couple logical homes for a ~460 hp NA flat 6, either a GT4 RS or a purist 911 (or both).

If I were Porsche I would keep the 992 GT3 Touring with the proper Motorsports engine and ~525 hp. I would add a new normally aspirated model at ~455 hp with a more road biased suspension setup similar to the 911R at a ~25k discount. That car would share the GT3’s existing exhaust and particle filter for cost and emissions reasons. Some random reporter would hear rumors and see photos of that car and come to the incorrect click-bait conclusion that the next Touring would lose the GT3 engine. And I would see that article and chuckle.
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That kind of car would cannibalize the GTS, though.
Not if you just called that car the "992 GTS".
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Not if you just called that car the "992 GTS".
Brilliant!
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Originally Posted by rick brooklyn
That kind of car would cannibalize the GTS, though.
You’d need to keep it relatively hard-core vs the GTS’s Grand Tourer. Possibly manual only, fewer creature comforts, maybe no back seat? I see a space between the GT4 and GT3 and above the 4 seat Carreras, especially when the next GT3 MSRP increases:


Porsche is a master of slicing and dicing the market into niches, and currently anything GT or NA is selling like hot cakes...
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I think the Carrera T is a good candidate for the GT4 motor and GT3 Manual gearbox (gearing would suit an 8k rpm redline and lower power pretty well)
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Originally Posted by Berjar
Looks like it 992 GT3 touring will have a "street" derived 4.0 not the race engine of the 991.2. At least it is still N/A.

https://carbuzz.com/news/there-s-som...is-porsche-911
Damm, I guess you’re glad you decided to keep your 911.2 GT3 touring then!
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I think the Carrera T is a good candidate for the GT4 motor and GT3 Manual gearbox (gearing would suit an 8k rpm redline and lower power pretty well)
This would be wonderful, but unfortunately I highly doubt that.

My guess the 992 GT3 & Touring will have something close to the Speedster engine.
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Originally Posted by rick brooklyn
That kind of car would cannibalize the GTS, though.
Now I could see the GTS getting the 4.0 NA and tuned up to 450 hp or 460 hp...that would make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by Petevb
You’d need to keep it relatively hard-core vs the GTS’s Grand Tourer. Possibly manual only, fewer creature comforts, maybe no back seat? I see a space between the GT4 and GT3 and above the 4 seat Carreras, especially when the next GT3 MSRP increases:


Porsche is a master of slicing and dicing the market into niches, and currently anything GT or NA is selling like hot cakes...
That's a great plot of the spread but somebody should adjust the scales on x and y - axes - will emphasize the spread between models a bit more.


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