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Old 01-03-2020, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Z.
We are not alone in our nubbin thoughts: https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...che-911-better
In the author's own words: "Everything I’ve listed is nitpicky. None of it affects how the 911 drives, which is the most-important thing for a sports car. But I’m OCD and some of these things really bother me. As Senior Editor Kirk Bell will tell you, I can be “ridiculous.”

I'm not OCD; none of these things bother me in any way. Nothing is perfect, and brain and life cycles spent in pursuit of perfection are mostly wasted effort. Awesome is
sufficient in my world. YMMV.
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Old 01-03-2020, 02:31 PM
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Most people don’t realize the shifter was inspired from the 918 Spyder shifter! No one complained about that one.



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Old 01-03-2020, 02:32 PM
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Apples to Oranges...I could put up with the nubbin in that body.
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Old 01-03-2020, 03:37 PM
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Funny, just this morning I thought to myself how I really liked the nubbin as I was putting the car in reverse without looking down. It was just at the right place for my hand to reach, very natural. It has a very nice positive feel to it. Once used it for a bit its clear it's a selector not shifter. It's also very much out of the way during the drive while using the AC and PCM. We're so used to seeing a shifter there it "looked" weird, but it all makes sense after using the car and getting to know it. This coming from a former 997 owner that wasn't sure about that aspect of the 992. BTW, Park gets actuated automatically when you turn the car off. My only gripe is the "M" button, as I drive the car on manual and i'd rather not push a button. (double tapping the "D" would be great to actuate manual)
Old 01-03-2020, 04:09 PM
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For the nth time, the nubbin is OK in the 918 because the 918 is a hybrid.

The 911 is not a hybrid or EV. That means the gearshift is still an important functional component.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah Fect
For the nth time, the nubbin is OK in the 918 because the 918 is a hybrid.

The 911 is not a hybrid or EV. That means the gearshift is still an important functional component.
What does hybrid have to do with it? The nubbin is not a gearshift lever, it's a RND selector lever just like in Ferrari's and others. The paddles shift the gears in manual mode.
Old 01-03-2020, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by HouTexCarreraS
What does hybrid have to do with it? The nubbin is not a gearshift lever, it's a RND selector lever just like in Ferrari's and others. The paddles shift the gears in manual mode.
The paddles will shift the gears in any mode. "Manual" mode allows one to hold the selected gear (except when coming to a full stop, when PDK selects 1st gear). The paddles - like the retro styled "gear shift lever" in earlier PDK cars - activate switches. The actual shifting is done inside the PDK gearbox. Hybrid has as much to do with shifting as paint color.
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Old 01-03-2020, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckbdc
The paddles will shift the gears in any mode. "Manual" mode allows one to hold the selected gear (except when coming to a full stop, when PDK selects 1st gear). The paddles - like the retro styled "gear shift lever" in earlier PDK cars - activate switches. The actual shifting is done inside the PDK gearbox. Hybrid has as much to do with shifting as paint color.
I did not know that since I'm still waiting for my car to arrive. I've had other cars in the past that did that as well and if not in manual mode would shift automatically for you if you over revved in any gear.
Old 01-03-2020, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckbdc
The paddles will shift the gears in any mode. "Manual" mode allows one to hold the selected gear (except when coming to a full stop, when PDK selects 1st gear). The paddles - like the retro styled "gear shift lever" in earlier PDK cars - activate switches. The actual shifting is done inside the PDK gearbox. Hybrid has as much to do with shifting as paint color.
In a street-driven hybrid, you spend a lot of time not shifting at all. The gearshift is a secondary control at best.

In a street-driven sports car, shifting is a primary control. Paddles are great, but so is the ability to shift with the lever. Removing that ability was fine... for a hybrid.
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Old 01-03-2020, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah Fect
In a street-driven hybrid, you spend a lot of time not shifting at all. The gearshift is a secondary control at best.

In a street-driven sports car, shifting is a primary control. Paddles are great, but so is the ability to shift with the lever. Removing that ability was fine... for a hybrid.
I guess I just don't see the advantage to clutchless shifting with a lever on the console vs. paddles when no mechanical connection with the transmission is required. Paddle shifting keeps both hands on the wheel and is a big improvement IMHO.
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:22 PM
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It's time to move on..


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Old 01-03-2020, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HouTexCarreraS
I guess I just don't see the advantage to clutchless shifting with a lever on the console vs. paddles when no mechanical connection with the transmission is required. Paddle shifting keeps both hands on the wheel and is a big improvement IMHO.
You're right, of course. When trying to set lap times, the paddles are def better. The issues I have are 1 - it looks oddly inadequate because they chose to put it in the same location we're used to seeing the larger shifter; 2 - some of us enjoy resting our hands there during non-spirited driving; 3 - see #1.
Old 01-03-2020, 09:10 PM
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I get a real chuckle out of all these Young Turks looking for a fashion statement, who then proceed to buy a car that's designed to look pretty much the same as it did 55 years ago.
Old 01-03-2020, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Noah Fect
I get a real chuckle out of all these Young Turks looking for a fashion statement, who then proceed to buy a car that's designed to look pretty much the same as it did 55 years ago.
I laugh all the time at your comments. So I’m with agreement with you there. Go back to your ancient 991
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Originally Posted by jkautz
I laugh all the time at your comments. So I’m with agreement with you there. Go back to your ancient 991
You'll laugh even harder when I point out that I only have a 981.


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