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Old 04-15-2019, 02:23 AM
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My 991.2 pdk shifts fastest in sport plus, although sport mode is actually plenty fast as well.

thank you op for the honest review! Beautiful car!
Old 04-15-2019, 07:06 AM
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Saturday I washed my car with a brush made for cars.

The black surface before and after the glass sunroof is now full of little scratches.

What is it made of? Butter?!
Old 04-15-2019, 08:20 AM
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That’s terrible! Can you post a picture of the brush please? Is the rest of the paint on the car fine?
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Old 04-15-2019, 08:31 AM
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Agree the door closing sound was very disappointing.
Old 04-15-2019, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Cautery
Saturday I washed my car with a brush made for cars.

The black surface before and after the glass sunroof is now full of little scratches.

What is it made of? Butter?!
I will say this: any "brush" - even if it's made for cars - is the wrong way to wash a car and avoid spider-webbing or micro scratches. I'd be interested to see any brush (brings forth the idea of stiff bristles) that is safe for a car's paint. In fact, any type of "scrubbing" motion is usually a bad idea.
I'm not discounting the fact the paint or surface may be soft in those areas (black pillar trim on any car seems to show these much more easily). But, if you really want to wash it yourself, use a touchless wash or use a foam cannon.
Alternatively, use a 2 bucket or 1 gallon method with microfibers + optimum no-rinse.

Nothing should be touching your paint aside from wool / microfiber
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Old 04-15-2019, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DKST
To be honest with you, I haven't evidently observed a lag when shifting manually in Sport Mode. I have to closely monitor this behaviour the next time I'm driving it and will very likely do a quick video analysis showing the time lag between shifting in NORMAL, SPORT & SPORT PLUS.

For the time being, this video can give some POV indication of how quickly it shifts in Automatic (which is irrelevant to the discussion here - I know):

https://youtu.be/-ed7UsNTAz4
Weird...interior engine sound really sounds different than my 991.2 4S. It sounds WORSE... more 'turbo/ semi truck like' and less 'howl.' Surprising because its same engine?

I don't see what all the fuss is about closing doors... its really similar to mine and its fine. Maybe mine has a more satisfying solid 'clunk,' but its not THAT different. IMO this critisim sounds more like an 'old wife's tale.'
Old 04-15-2019, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Cautery
Saturday I washed my car with a brush made for cars.

The black surface before and after the glass sunroof is now full of little scratches.

What is it made of? Butter?!
I was worried about that.... shiny black panels are notorious for that (see the pillar between front and back windows on F80 M3). Definitely wouldn't touch it with a brush. Get it polished out and PPF that piece for sure.
Old 04-18-2019, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
Have you driven it in the 911?

Driving it in the Panamera I agree. I did not like it at all. The around town slow speed engagement was TERRIBLE.
No, but Chris Harris commented about it in his review too. I hate the 8-Speed PDK. Major step down from 991 7-Speed IMO. It's not just the slow response time, it's the disconnected feel of the 8-speed. It no longer has any feel, just numb and disconnected. Really hope Porsche refines/remedies it with software updates.
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Originally Posted by minthral
Weird...interior engine sound really sounds different than my 991.2 4S. It sounds WORSE... more 'turbo/ semi truck like' and less 'howl.' Surprising because its same engine?

I don't see what all the fuss is about closing doors... its really similar to mine and its fine. Maybe mine has a more satisfying solid 'clunk,' but its not THAT different. IMO this critisim sounds more like an 'old wife's tale.'
Engine is different. Different plumbing and other changes. Most certainly effect sound.
Old 04-18-2019, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DKST
OMG where can I sign? I’m seriously just about to go to my Porsche lady and throw my beautiful new leather wrapped key in her face. I mean, tell me Cautery, opening the frunk is basically not possible anymore. After the third or fourth time touching the nose / crest, it EVENTUALLY pops open IF the car is in a good mood. Opening & closing the car by simply touching ANY part of the handle? Nope, but thanks for trying!

Save your money on keyless go!
There's got to be a sweet spot or needs some time to get used to it.

I really can't imagine Porsche engineers not have sorted out these kinds of basic functions before the launch!
Old 04-18-2019, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
cant get away with anything in Virginia. Thank heavens radar detectors are legal in the rest of the country!
PA is not that far away with tons of great roads. I must say that I did get zapped in McLean on Old Dominion Dr yesterday by a cycle cop but he didn't come after me. Also, if you are going less than 75 on the 55MPH 267, you are impeding traffic. They only seem to pull over the ones doing 80 or more, or worse, riding single on Rt 66 with your EZ-Pass turned off during rush hour.

I also drive slower with my stick because of feeling more connected to the car, deriving more satisfaction. That's me, do disrespect intended for PDK owners.
Old 04-19-2019, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Airbag997
No, but Chris Harris commented about it in his review too. I hate the 8-Speed PDK. Major step down from 991 7-Speed IMO. It's not just the slow response time, it's the disconnected feel of the 8-speed. It no longer has any feel, just numb and disconnected. Really hope Porsche refines/remedies it with software updates.
is it confirmed that the 992 uses the same 8 speed unit as the panamera?
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Originally Posted by Airbag997
No, but Chris Harris commented about it in his review too. I hate the 8-Speed PDK. Major step down from 991 7-Speed IMO. It's not just the slow response time, it's the disconnected feel of the 8-speed. It no longer has any feel, just numb and disconnected. Really hope Porsche refines/remedies it with software updates.
Have you driven the 992? Mine is in no way slow, it is super fast and feels awesome to run the gears up and down. Love the down shifts in sport-plus.
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Originally Posted by Johisco
Have you driven the 992? Mine is in no way slow, it is super fast and feels awesome to run the gears up and down. Love the down shifts in sport-plus.
No, but it's good to hear it is fast. Maybe the pre-production/presser Chris Harris was driving (and the brand new panamera loaner i was driving) have older software. What car are you coming from? Did you have a 991 PDK prior?
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Originally Posted by Airbag997
No, but it's good to hear it is fast. Maybe the pre-production/presser Chris Harris was driving (and the brand new panamera loaner i was driving) have older software. What car are you coming from? Did you have a 991 PDK prior?
I came from a GT3 Touring but I have driven PDK 718, 991.2 and Panamera on road and track as well as 991.2 GTS PDK on road and ice racing track. 991.2 GT3 RS as well but not on ice.

Trust me, you cannot compare a Panamera with a 911...


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