First I've heard of getting in trouble with PCNA. I don't think that's a thing.

 

go on finder and find a car that is listed as new not at MSRP. There is a reason they are doing things the way they are.

 

LOL. That's just the listing. Go on Finder and try to buy one of those at MSRP. They're allowed to sell over MSRP. Ask any dealer. Penske won't do it but that's his policy. Not PCNA.
There are dealers that do ADM and there are dealers that won't. PCNA doesn't dictate that.

 

I don't think you'll ever see anything written, but I don't think they clearly support ADMs on new cars. The displayed for all new is MSRP. Tacitly, they know it happens and turn a blind eye. At the end of the day all they care about is moving product. I do think if dealers were explicit that your allocation required a watch, taycan lease, trade in and your first born they would crack down.

 

I've never heard of PCNA caring about this. They know dealers charge ADM all the time. Just look at all the posts here about dealers with ADM. If PCNA cared, they would have cracked down a long time ago. They call it MSRP (Suggested) for a reason.

 

I've never heard of a dealer (Porsche, Toyota, etc) getting in trouble for market adjustments, it's clearly added to the dealer (addendum/secondary sticker) price as a line item.

 

You must also live in a super high COL area with 2 kids in private school.

Using the income figures you provided, you should be able to swing a Porsche GT car if you bring in an average of $900,000 annually.

 

Yeah, but Penske will just offer the equivalent ADM less on trade, which is required to buy it.

 

I know this is how it works, but never understood this policy, it seems like it is false advertising listing one price intentionally on the finder and selling much higher. If anything people new to the brand who don't know how it works would likely be annoyed w their first experience with the brand once they make those calls. Transparency is more valuable to a customer than whatever it is they are doing now. Just list it at the price you want to sell it for.

 

wakey wakey, welcome to RL.

 

if you are not looking for your very own options, colors and stitching that’s the way to go. CPO with delivery miles deal shows up once in a while with a slightly lower adm. in 5 years they will all be same (your spec vs another guys spec, unless done very wrong) and you will have 1 extra yr warranty.

this being said I bought a cpo with delivery miles 3 years ago, perfectly specced (better than I could at that time), to find myself ordering my own spec now also I know that my spec will be different if I would be ordering 3 years after.

drive what makes you happy. Its not the stitching that really matters, its the memories and people. I’m not chasing the best deal at this moment, there is no luxury in that. If I like the 992.2 this thing will stay in my garage next 20 yrs, I really dont need another car.

 

They cant sell to themselves but they will sell to known flippers who continue to get allocations. Ferrari dealers did this for a while until recently when you cant trade out evenly or at a profit.

 

yeah but if he's in a blue state and w2 he's likely getting crushed by taxes. 3 kids in private school with full time trad who does house/kid duties thankful to be in red state and high income 1099

 

@Ikone , does PCNA care about this situation: Dealer A sells car to intermediary at MSRP, instantly sells to Dealer B, which then lists as used at substantial markup? It seems some are trying to hide it as I've seen a situation when Dealer A and B are owned by the same parent dealer group.

 

It happens with the same dealer (A to intermediary to A), and PCNA has never stepped it. The only reason they do this is because the dealer (owner) has a policy of not selling above MSRP. PCNA has zero to do with it. If the dealer wanted to, they could charge more. That's a fact! The below is directly from porsche.com. But feel free to do your own research.

Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price. Excludes options; taxes; title; registration; delivery, processing and handling fee; dealer charges; potential tariffs. Dealer sets actual selling price.