jp884

I’ll probably echo what others have hinted at. I appreciate Lamborghini but it’s too flashy of car even more so than Ferrari. So if that’s your thing than I would probably get the Lamborghini. However, in the $500-$600k range I personally would be looking at a 458 Speciale. I have a 458 that i absolutely love and the reason why I personally haven’t pulled the trigger on a Speciale is because I want to add care free miles and I don’t think I would be able to do with that car.

parkert

I also have a 458 in the Garage, hard to part with it.

jp884

Oh yes I just read that you have a 458. And I am like you, I have a hard time moving onto the new stuff and that's just not Ferrari that's also pretty much everything now. There will come a time where Hybrid will be all we will be able to buy if we are lucky. So why not enjoy the the NA's while we can?

cavemanmoore

I can’t argue with you there. I had to want to fit into the 296, but find my 488 to be roomy and comfortable. Ferrari seats in general seem to really impact the driving experience. For example, I’ve been in some F8’s that were comfortable, while others felt cramped. The only SF90 I’ve been in was too short for me to feel safe driving it.

C.J. Ichiban

having owned a lot of ferrari/porsche/mclaren stuff and not as much in the lambo world, I was originally tempted to get a Revuelto, but when the pricing was announced I felt like I'd rather have the SVJ if I was going to go into that route. I also really don't like the way the exhaust and rear wing look and can't get over it.

I'm not biased against any brand- but feel like there are better fits in certain segments...based on my use cases.

For instance- I have the Dakar and the Sterrato and think the sterrato is more fun on the road but also more fragile in the dirt- the Dakar is more useful in terms of storage and visibility and surprisingly fast around town but the sterrato just sounds so much better. IF you drive offroad and that's why you want one or the other, the Dakar is more 'all around' like a GT3 and the Raptor had a baby.

In V12s- I really like the 812 better than the Lambos since I'm not the type of guy to sit around and rev the engine. I also like that the 812 has a trunk and I can take it on road trips. Lets be real neither the revuelto or the 812 variants are really track cars. They all sound great.

In regards to the comments on the mclaren- really surprised anyone would take a 488 over a 765LT. I mean, come on guys. The base 488 does not sound great at all, and is WAY slower than the 765. I also think the 458 speciale is really overrated and is not that much different when driving vs the 458. The 675LT is monstrously better to drive than a 458 speciale. It's not even remotely close. The 720 sounds a little bland but for a while was the fastest series production car you could get on the highway and for side by side rolling drag races. And...great ride quality. Downside on McLaren vs Porsche is build quality and dealer network / proximity but on a 488 vs 720 comparison the 720 is way way better. Pista and F8 are better looking to me vs the 750 however.

I do like the F8 a lot and just on a driving standpoint you're not losing much driving the F8 vs the Pista. They're effectively the same exact car- one is lighter, the other one is heavier with leather. The Pista and F8 are really great cars but I'd rather track a GT3RS or GT4RS vs the Pista all things being equal. You don't have to 'back off and manage the car' in the Porsches as much. Mclarens and Ferraris don't really tolerate hot ambient temps or sustained 25-30 min track sessions 5-6 times a day like a GT3 does.

50% of the Ferrari thing is to join the club/ cult.

The 296 really makes the SF90 seem like overkill as the 296 when driven hard is more engaging than the SF90. I think they could have done better with the exhaust on the 296 (such as how they did the race car in challenge or GT3 format) but for those of you saying that an 800+ HP rear wheel drive car with a really cool sounding engine is not 'engaging' - I mean...sorry but that's wildly hopeless. It's insanely fast, and squirts and darts around under full throttle and through corners it slides etc just like any fun mid engined car should. The SF90 is legit psychotic fast. But, oddly enough just doesn't make cool noises like the P1 or the 918 or even the Pista.

Track wise- I have a GT3 cup and a 488 evo so not biased there either.

sechsgang

Driven both now...the 296 is more "racy" and the Revuelto is more of an "event"...both are super easy to drive around town, though I prefer the Revuelto a little here, and definitely the ride. Oh, and stringing gears in the Rev sounds quasi new age F1 which is pretty badass. If you want what ultimate speed though, the 296 is absolutely RIDICULOUS and even with the HP deficit to the Rev...well, thats probably the choice of the two then.

ScratchTheItch

I just want to say how much I appreciate this thread. A bunch of true owners and enthusiasts coming out to share their love of cars and perspective vs. the constant Rennlist bickering around ADMs and allocations or folks whining about why they can't get XYZ car.

C.J. Ichiban

Oh I'll drag us right back to I hope to get a 296 Speciale/Pista whatever allocation lol

Einmalig

I’m very familiar with the 296 and the Reveulto and I appreciate both cars for what they are.

That said, if I had to choose between them there would be no hesitation in my decision to purchase the Revuelto. For about 50% more than a 6 cylinder turbo hybrid 296, you get a normally aspirated 12 cylinder hybrid with a carbon chassis, all wheel drive, rear wheel steering and as much power as a Bugatti Veyron for about half what the Bugatti sold for more than 10 years ago.

Ironically, a close friend of mine has both a 296 GTB and a Revuelto on order and should have both by year-end. I helped him spec both cars and suggested that he’ll enjoy hopping in the 296 on the weekends, but the Revuelto will become the centerpiece of his growing collection of world-class sports cars.

Lastly, as a current GT3 owner and a former 296 depositor, if I were forced to choose between them, I would never give up a GT3 to have a 296, regardless of the cost which happens to be double. Ferraris are special cars, but I’ve yet to drive one that I enjoy driving more than my GT3.

parkert

Yes, I was really surprised on the great comments around the cars as a whole instead of being bias to only one brand!

C.J. Ichiban

so who's going to tell him he's going to lose a GT3 MSRP worth of money on the revuelto if he hangs onto it indefinitely? Lambos (especially normal ones) tank

Einmalig

That has certainly been true historically, especially when Lambos were available for the asking and viewed as a distant second choice to Ferrari with their 3 plus year waiting lists, but times have changed.

Many Lambo stores are sold out for two years, Ferrari are producing far more cars than they used to and customers are realizing that VW Group Brands like Porsche, Lamborghini, and Bentley are building better quality cars than Ferrari or Maserati ever hoped to without as much drama and politics in the purchase/trade experience.

I spoke with a Ferrari Dealer and friend recently who told me that he’s lost nearly 30% of his 296 depositors which essentially equates to the number of opportunistic speculators on his list who came to realize that they can’t make money flipping the 296.

Einmalig

I agree with you that Ferrari will produce something special and highly collectible as an end of life derivative for the 296 and it will definitely be worth having. But, at an MSRP of $600K + I strongly doubt it will be 3 times better to drive than a GT3. It’s a good time to be a Porsche Dealer, now we just need to find you a Lambo and Bentley Store. 😉

Evo X

I sat in a Revuelto 2 weeks ago. Much more room and better visibility than a Huracan or Aventador.

To add my 2 cents to this discussion, I took delivery of a new 812 GTS 9 months ago and it’s my favorite all around street car. I am looking forward to speccing a 12Cilindri. I’ve owned 2 Huracan Evos so I like Lambo too but Ferrari V12 just feel better to me.

I also had an amazing spec 458 coupe and ordered a PTS SpyderRS so I’ve been aboard the NA train my whole life. I just can’t get on with turbo hybrid cars, no matter how epic their performance envelope is. How fast can you really drive on the street without doing something dangerous or going to jail? That’s why I prefer cars that make me feel emotional at all speeds instead of just beelining to the most powerful variants.

Yc911Kid

just put 1k miles on this old girl that'll give any modern ferrari a serious run for the money. slow lift/monster turning radius/tall gearing are making me itchy for a 765/750 but man it just looks so 🔥