Notices
992 GT3 and GT2RS Forum 2019-Current
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

NutCracker - Your New Centerlock Tool

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-31-2024, 01:43 PM
  #61  
dixonk
Rennlist Member
 
dixonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 1,604
Received 1,603 Likes on 708 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GrantG
Is this version the one that has a permanent 1/2” ratchet attached? These are less expensive and don’t allow for multiple attachments or the precise adjustment of the 730N. But could be a good choice also if that’s not important.
No the head can be removed. It’s a cross reference to the other one but with a VAG part number. Little cheaper as well. It’s a cross reference to the 730.
Old 05-31-2024, 01:45 PM
  #62  
GrantG
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
GrantG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Denver
Posts: 17,968
Received 4,904 Likes on 2,781 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dixonk
No the head can be removed. It’s a cross reference to the other one but with a VAG part number. Little cheaper as well. It’s a cross reference to the 730.
Ah, the older original 730 instead of 730N - makes sense
The following users liked this post:
Diablo Dude (05-31-2024)
Old 05-31-2024, 01:48 PM
  #63  
dixonk
Rennlist Member
 
dixonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 1,604
Received 1,603 Likes on 708 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jkb545
Thank you for your post about the options. Gabriel‘s suggestions were significantly less expensive (two wrenches) then either Stahville or the Porsche branded wrench. Do you know if any difference when it comes to reliability, accuracy or durability? Thank you.
Long term accuracy is iffy on the cheaper stuff. The Stahlwille can be stored without having to zero the wrench. You also eliminate the need for a breaker bar or two tool solution. Incorrectly storing a cheap torque wrench even one time can mess up the calibration. The center lock is a high torque single point, i want my center locks to be on there as intended. The nutcracker is such a good value anyway that splurging on a high quality tool is still cheaper than closest competitors offering.
The following 2 users liked this post by dixonk:
Diablo Dude (05-31-2024), Gabriel@NutCracker (05-31-2024)
Old 05-31-2024, 04:25 PM
  #64  
Diablo Dude
Race Car
 
Diablo Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: California
Posts: 4,065
Received 2,212 Likes on 1,241 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dixonk
Just a heads up for anyone shopping for this tool. There is actually a Porsche/VAG part number for this and it comes with the 1/2” head on it. I got it for $440 shipped at my local dealer:

Torque Wrench V.A.G 1332A - Porsche (ASE-440-271-01-000)


There is also a snapon.porsche.com for all the dealer tools and they sell this wrench there as well.
Is this it?

VAG1332A, Torque Wrench, 40-200Nm - Porsche Authorized Special Tools and Equipment (snapon.com)

My dealer shows a price of roughly $350 for this wrench.







Last edited by Diablo Dude; 05-31-2024 at 04:29 PM.
Old 05-31-2024, 04:32 PM
  #65  
Jkb545
Racer
 
Jkb545's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 395
Received 155 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Is this it?

VAG1332A, Torque Wrench, 40-200Nm - Porsche Authorized Special Tools and Equipment (snapon.com)

My dealer shows a price of roughly $350 for this wrench.
the link leads to a wrench with Measuring range: 6 - 50Nm
Old 05-31-2024, 04:46 PM
  #66  
JB991
Rennlist Member
 
JB991's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 219
Received 37 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GrantG
Ah, the older original 730 instead of 730N - makes sense
Any major differences in the two?
Old 05-31-2024, 07:27 PM
  #67  
dixonk
Rennlist Member
 
dixonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 1,604
Received 1,603 Likes on 708 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Diablo Dude
Is this it?

VAG1332A, Torque Wrench, 40-200Nm - Porsche Authorized Special Tools and Equipment (snapon.com)

My dealer shows a price of roughly $350 for this wrench.
Yeah that’s it. I think description is wrong. The A superseded the VAG1332. At least according to my dealers system. $350 for that is a great price.
The following users liked this post:
Diablo Dude (06-01-2024)
Old 05-31-2024, 09:38 PM
  #68  
Jkb545
Racer
 
Jkb545's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 395
Received 155 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/tor...-hazet-51223ct

what do you folks think about this? Similar specs to the Stahville, lower cost, German made.

https://a.co/d/13iqqcM - available on Amazon for $163


Last edited by Jkb545; 06-01-2024 at 12:38 AM.
The following users liked this post:
dixonk (05-31-2024)
Old 06-01-2024, 04:11 AM
  #69  
wageslave
Instructor
 
wageslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 154
Received 73 Likes on 50 Posts
Default

Hazet and Stahlwille are broadly on the same level, it comes down to the individual tool. In the case of torque wrenches, like Grant points out, you can use the Stahlwille in ‘reverse’ without putting load on the measuring bits, which might be worth money given the center lock tightening sequence.

That said, Hazet does have closer ties to Porsche, and to automotive — Stahlwille seems more focused on aviation, but the tools don’t care.
The following users liked this post:
Gabriel@NutCracker (06-01-2024)
Old 06-01-2024, 07:19 AM
  #70  
Jkb545
Racer
 
Jkb545's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 395
Received 155 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Thank you for the reply. A review of the Hazet website notes that this is a “reversible ratchet” - so this too can be used for breaking and torquing? I don’t own a torque wrench yet, but this would require changing the torque setting to max (200) and reversing direction when taking down the CL?

Last edited by Jkb545; 06-01-2024 at 07:22 AM.
Old 06-01-2024, 11:59 AM
  #71  
Wind911
Rennlist Member
 
Wind911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Houston
Posts: 649
Received 191 Likes on 127 Posts
Default

I have the Stahlwille 1/2" torque wrench. It's convenient to use for the torque-loosen-retorque sequence of the center lock. But I still use another cheaper torque wrench that measures torque value in reverse when initially loosening a center nut. This way I wont accidently exceed the torque multiplier's limit if I have a stubborn center nut. The buyer I sold my Renntorq tool to didn't do this and broke the tool on first use. YMMV.

Last edited by Wind911; 06-01-2024 at 01:07 PM.
The following users liked this post:
wageslave (06-01-2024)
Old 06-01-2024, 12:02 PM
  #72  
Gabriel@NutCracker
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor

Thread Starter
 
Gabriel@NutCracker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: EU
Posts: 199
Received 118 Likes on 70 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Wind911
I have the Stahlwille 1/2" torque wrench. It's convenient to use for the torque-tighten-retorque sequence of the center lock. But I still use another cheaper torque wrench that measures torque value in reverse when initially loosening a center nut. This way I wont accidently exceed the torque multiplier's limit if I have a stubborn center nut. The buyer I sold my Renntorq tool to didn't do this and broke the tool on first use. YMMV.
I have seen the photos. That is one of NutCracker's benefits - it can handle up to 1500 Nm. Downside to it being its higher weight than RT.
__________________
NutCracker: Because everyone should be able to swap a wheel on any passenger car!

Current cars: 2020 718 Spyder (MT), 2018 991 GT3T
Previous cars: 2014 BS (MT), 2x NC Miata, Audi R8 V10 plus


Old 06-01-2024, 06:53 PM
  #73  
neanicu
Nordschleife Master
 
neanicu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ny
Posts: 9,966
Received 350 Likes on 212 Posts
Default

No torque wrench should be used for loosening. I don't care what Stahlwille claims,I want them to show a test with the calibration of their torque wrench when used in reverse for a long time. If it's still within spec then they can claim whatever they want,until then : DO NOT USE ANY TORQUE WRENCH FOR LOOSENING!

P.S. Also,if you own a mechanical torque wrench that uses any sort of spring for calibration,do not store it in any compressed position no matter what they claim! Always store it in the relaxed position so that the spring mechanism doesn't create its own " memory " and throwing off the torque next time you use it.

Last edited by neanicu; 06-01-2024 at 07:14 PM.
Old 06-01-2024, 09:54 PM
  #74  
dixonk
Rennlist Member
 
dixonk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 1,604
Received 1,603 Likes on 708 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by neanicu
No torque wrench should be used for loosening. I don't care what Stahlwille claims,I want them to show a test with the calibration of their torque wrench when used in reverse for a long time. If it's still within spec then they can claim whatever they want,until then : DO NOT USE ANY TORQUE WRENCH FOR LOOSENING!

P.S. Also,if you own a mechanical torque wrench that uses any sort of spring for calibration,do not store it in any compressed position no matter what they claim! Always store it in the relaxed position so that the spring mechanism doesn't create its own " memory " and throwing off the torque next time you use it.
If it doesn’t exceed the max torque of the head and it’s able to be used in reverse what exactly is the difference? How would it mess it up? If the wheel takes 120Nm to tighten and 130Nm to remove and the torque wrench can handle up to 200Nm what is the issue?
Old 06-01-2024, 10:20 PM
  #75  
neanicu
Nordschleife Master
 
neanicu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Ny
Posts: 9,966
Received 350 Likes on 212 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by dixonk
If it doesn’t exceed the max torque of the head and it’s able to be used in reverse what exactly is the difference? How would it mess it up? If the wheel takes 120Nm to tighten and 130Nm to remove and the torque wrench can handle up to 200Nm what is the issue?
A torque wrench is a tightening tool. It is a very sensitive and precise tightening tool, and should never been used to loosen bolts.

https://tools.cp.com/en-us/expert-co...loosen%20bolts.

You're going to ask why it has an " Off " position. Simple : left handed threads.



Simple answer : it's a tightening tool made to TIGHTEN fasteners. Use it for loosening and it will lose its calibration MUCH FASTER than normal. And this includes the most expensive 700$ SnapOn electronic torque wrench : speaking from experience...
The following users liked this post:
DasCayman (06-06-2024)


Quick Reply: NutCracker - Your New Centerlock Tool



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:36 AM.