Hypothetical GT3T Allocation Question
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Hypothetical GT3T Allocation Question
Long time reader, first time poster, because I know this is the perfect forum for this question. Thank you in advance.
Let's say, hypothetically, someone has been sitting in the top three confirmed order slots (with deposit) for a GT3T at a California dealership since the week the 992.1 was announced. With the comically limited order slots, this person has moved up one spot. Close enough to believe that someday their number will be called from the deli counter, but not close enough to believe that it will be in the near term.
Let's say, hypothetically, this person relocates from CA to NY. Their number comes up. Will the dealer balk at filling an order slot for a customer that is now far out of state, or will they be obligated to fill it? My sense from perusing these boards is that if someone had initially called on a CA dealership from NY or vice versa looking for a GT3, they'd have hung up. I just don't know what the attitude will be in this scenario.
Let's say, hypothetically, someone has been sitting in the top three confirmed order slots (with deposit) for a GT3T at a California dealership since the week the 992.1 was announced. With the comically limited order slots, this person has moved up one spot. Close enough to believe that someday their number will be called from the deli counter, but not close enough to believe that it will be in the near term.
Let's say, hypothetically, this person relocates from CA to NY. Their number comes up. Will the dealer balk at filling an order slot for a customer that is now far out of state, or will they be obligated to fill it? My sense from perusing these boards is that if someone had initially called on a CA dealership from NY or vice versa looking for a GT3, they'd have hung up. I just don't know what the attitude will be in this scenario.
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In my experience and observation a list of "confirmed order slots" doesn't mean anything. Unless there is some sort of written agreement which is typically not the case. Only allocations with a commission number matter. Priority for a dealer's allocations assigned to customers are subject to change at the discretion of the dealer until the allocation and commission number is associated with a customer name in the Porsche tracking system. Certainly the dealer has no obligation to honor a list. Again unless there is some sort of formal agreement.
#3
I believe that most here on the RL Community would agree 100% with zedcat.
Waiting lists and allocation slot lists are literally bogus without some sort of an "agreement" in writing.
I would also add that many dealerships here in CA have had their "wrists slapped" pretty hard in the last 6 months for selling GT cars to people out of the area.
I know that my dealership here in the Bay Area has been told in no uncertain terms by their district sales manager to refrain from doing so.
Waiting lists and allocation slot lists are literally bogus without some sort of an "agreement" in writing.
I would also add that many dealerships here in CA have had their "wrists slapped" pretty hard in the last 6 months for selling GT cars to people out of the area.
I know that my dealership here in the Bay Area has been told in no uncertain terms by their district sales manager to refrain from doing so.
#4
I believe that most here on the RL Community would agree 100% with zedcat.
Waiting lists and allocation slot lists are literally bogus without some sort of an "agreement" in writing.
I would also add that many dealerships here in CA have had their "wrists slapped" pretty hard in the last 6 months for selling GT cars to people out of the area.
I know that my dealership here in the Bay Area has been told in no uncertain terms by their district sales manager to refrain from doing so.
Waiting lists and allocation slot lists are literally bogus without some sort of an "agreement" in writing.
I would also add that many dealerships here in CA have had their "wrists slapped" pretty hard in the last 6 months for selling GT cars to people out of the area.
I know that my dealership here in the Bay Area has been told in no uncertain terms by their district sales manager to refrain from doing so.
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I believe that most here on the RL Community would agree 100% with zedcat.
Waiting lists and allocation slot lists are literally bogus without some sort of an "agreement" in writing.
I would also add that many dealerships here in CA have had their "wrists slapped" pretty hard in the last 6 months for selling GT cars to people out of the area.
I know that my dealership here in the Bay Area has been told in no uncertain terms by their district sales manager to refrain from doing so.
Waiting lists and allocation slot lists are literally bogus without some sort of an "agreement" in writing.
I would also add that many dealerships here in CA have had their "wrists slapped" pretty hard in the last 6 months for selling GT cars to people out of the area.
I know that my dealership here in the Bay Area has been told in no uncertain terms by their district sales manager to refrain from doing so.
#6
In my experience and observation a list of "confirmed order slots" doesn't mean anything. Unless there is some sort of written agreement which is typically not the case. Only allocations with a commission number matter. Priority for a dealer's allocations assigned to customers are subject to change at the discretion of the dealer until the allocation and commission number is associated with a customer name in the Porsche tracking system. Certainly the dealer has no obligation to honor a list. Again unless there is some sort of formal agreement.
#7
There is a signed purchase order and order number. "Literally bogus" seems a little hyperbolic because dealers have lists from which they pull in some kind of order to fill allocations but in any event I'm not asking for the legal analysis here. I'm asking for the dealer behavior prediction which consensus seems to be that they would not allocate the build slot to an out of state buyer that was in state at the time of the order.
But yes, when the dealer realizes you are no longer a local customer they have basically lost incentive to sell you the car and even if this dealer wasn't already bull****ting you then most likely you won't get a car. Also production for the 992.1 GT3 is almost over so your chances are basically none at this point.
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#8
There is no dealer in California that has only received 1 GT3 Touring allocation since production has started. There are 200 Porsche dealers in America and the California dealers are in the top 100 of that, even the bottom of the 200 have received 2-3+ GT3 Tourings this production run. Based on that this dealer is already playing games with you and has given others those allocations to those that were willing to pay a 50k-100k markup or purchase other cars first.
But yes, when the dealer realizes you are no longer a local customer they have basically lost incentive to sell you the car and even if this dealer wasn't already bull****ting you then most likely you won't get a car. Also production for the 992.1 GT3 is almost over so your chances are basically none at this point.
But yes, when the dealer realizes you are no longer a local customer they have basically lost incentive to sell you the car and even if this dealer wasn't already bull****ting you then most likely you won't get a car. Also production for the 992.1 GT3 is almost over so your chances are basically none at this point.
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I am a dealer and I am not selling a GT3 Touring to someone out of state unless they have massive purchase history including bringing those cars back to me vs listing them on BAT
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That does seem to be the consensus in this scenario unfortunately. Thank you for responding, and good to hear it from a dealer.
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I won't go over the modest markup we agreed to and no interest in paying the used market prices. I'd rather pay up for a 488 Pista than a used GT3. The premiums Porsche buyers are willing to pay are pretty amazing. They should get whatever they can get, but if Porsche is going to go full douche mode with their sales and allocation process you might as well just get a Ferrari IMO.
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Long time reader, first time poster, because I know this is the perfect forum for this question. Thank you in advance.
Let's say, hypothetically, someone has been sitting in the top three confirmed order slots (with deposit) for a GT3T at a California dealership since the week the 992.1 was announced. With the comically limited order slots, this person has moved up one spot. Close enough to believe that someday their number will be called from the deli counter, but not close enough to believe that it will be in the near term.
Let's say, hypothetically, this person relocates from CA to NY. Their number comes up. Will the dealer balk at filling an order slot for a customer that is now far out of state, or will they be obligated to fill it? My sense from perusing these boards is that if someone had initially called on a CA dealership from NY or vice versa looking for a GT3, they'd have hung up. I just don't know what the attitude will be in this scenario.
Let's say, hypothetically, someone has been sitting in the top three confirmed order slots (with deposit) for a GT3T at a California dealership since the week the 992.1 was announced. With the comically limited order slots, this person has moved up one spot. Close enough to believe that someday their number will be called from the deli counter, but not close enough to believe that it will be in the near term.
Let's say, hypothetically, this person relocates from CA to NY. Their number comes up. Will the dealer balk at filling an order slot for a customer that is now far out of state, or will they be obligated to fill it? My sense from perusing these boards is that if someone had initially called on a CA dealership from NY or vice versa looking for a GT3, they'd have hung up. I just don't know what the attitude will be in this scenario.
Why not just ask the dealer this question?
Instead of the good folks here throwing wet spaghetti noodles on the wall to see if they stick, just go to the source and get the actual plated pasta.
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#15
As an aside, I would say some of the people replying here have been "good", but many seem to be snarky, fairly angry for no reason and lacking in the way of reading comprehension. The dealer's response was by far the highest quality but most could not resist the urge to go off topic.
I do appreciate and thank everyone for the relevant portions.
To anyone who feels put out by responding here, I would suggest not responding.
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