New oil for the GT engines
#16
It’ll come to US. I think Ukraine is only where the oil is coming from - this info does not only apply to Ukrainian Porsche market…
#17
Can’t remember where the thread is, but someone analyzed the oil between each of several quick oil changes (done a few minutes apart) and the oil only resembled new oil after the fourth change. With the new green color, it will be easier to see when the stuff coming out begins to look fairly new.
Best case scenario, Porsche prescribes a procedure for dumping all the previous oil. Otherwise, some people will be content with half new and half old oil and the rest of us crazy OCD guys will need lots of new oil
Best case scenario, Porsche prescribes a procedure for dumping all the previous oil. Otherwise, some people will be content with half new and half old oil and the rest of us crazy OCD guys will need lots of new oil
#20
#22
Applications:
...
* 911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)
Then just below, it says:
Mobil 1 C40 GT 0W-40 is not suitable for Porsche vehicles requiring an A40, C20, C30 or C40 approved Mobil 1 engine oils.
Since the 992 GT3 RS calls for C40 oil, does this mean it isn't suitable? Or since a 992 GT3 RS is a "911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)", is it suitable?
#23
I'm confused by the article. First it says:
Applications:
...
* 911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)
Then just below, it says:
Mobil 1 C40 GT 0W-40 is not suitable for Porsche vehicles requiring an A40, C20, C30 or C40 approved Mobil 1 engine oils.
Since the 992 GT3 RS calls for C40 oil, does this mean it isn't suitable? Or since a 992 GT3 RS is a "911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)", is it suitable?
Applications:
...
* 911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)
Then just below, it says:
Mobil 1 C40 GT 0W-40 is not suitable for Porsche vehicles requiring an A40, C20, C30 or C40 approved Mobil 1 engine oils.
Since the 992 GT3 RS calls for C40 oil, does this mean it isn't suitable? Or since a 992 GT3 RS is a "911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)", is it suitable?
#24
I'm confused by the article. First it says:
Applications:
...
* 911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)
Then just below, it says:
Mobil 1 C40 GT 0W-40 is not suitable for Porsche vehicles requiring an A40, C20, C30 or C40 approved Mobil 1 engine oils.
Since the 992 GT3 RS calls for C40 oil, does this mean it isn't suitable? Or since a 992 GT3 RS is a "911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)", is it suitable?
Applications:
...
* 911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)
Then just below, it says:
Mobil 1 C40 GT 0W-40 is not suitable for Porsche vehicles requiring an A40, C20, C30 or C40 approved Mobil 1 engine oils.
Since the 992 GT3 RS calls for C40 oil, does this mean it isn't suitable? Or since a 992 GT3 RS is a "911 GT3 RS (991 and newer)", is it suitable?
Last edited by GrantG; 01-28-2024 at 08:26 PM.
#25
Question...if I need to add some oil over the next 8 months until the first oil change, I think I continue to use the quart of C40 I already have? I've added 150ml in the first 400 miles since getting the car (level is now at 75% of the "max" bar). Maybe the first oil change will involve the new designation/formulation at the dealer?
Last edited by EMdoc; 01-28-2024 at 10:52 PM.
#26
Question...if I need to add some oil over the next 8 months until the first oil change, I think I continue to use the quart of C40 I already have? I've added 150ml in the first 400 miles since getting the car (level is now at 75% of the "max" bar). Maybe the first oil change will involve the new designation/formulation at the dealer?
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#28
I did look at the technical specifications for both oils.
HTHS which stands for high temperature high stress .
It is a rating that test the ability of oil to maintain its film strength both oils were 3.8.
I also looked at the velocity index, the higher, the number the better it’s the ability of the oil to maintain its viscosity through various temperature ranges.
The regular C-40 actually has a higher viscosity index than the new oil, not much but it is higher.
Obviously, there must be more to it than this because everything that I can find on these two motor oils shows their performances about the same.
The one thing I couldn’t find is the zinc content on both oils racing oils can go up to 1300 street legal oils are 6– 800 I believe.
I would think if it was anything that was detrimental to the longevity of the engine there would’ve been some type of update from the factory?
It would be in their best interest to be proactive Because it will save them a ton of money
HTHS which stands for high temperature high stress .
It is a rating that test the ability of oil to maintain its film strength both oils were 3.8.
I also looked at the velocity index, the higher, the number the better it’s the ability of the oil to maintain its viscosity through various temperature ranges.
The regular C-40 actually has a higher viscosity index than the new oil, not much but it is higher.
Obviously, there must be more to it than this because everything that I can find on these two motor oils shows their performances about the same.
The one thing I couldn’t find is the zinc content on both oils racing oils can go up to 1300 street legal oils are 6– 800 I believe.
I would think if it was anything that was detrimental to the longevity of the engine there would’ve been some type of update from the factory?
It would be in their best interest to be proactive Because it will save them a ton of money
#29
Just had a talk and follow up on my allocation inquiry a d got informed that as of Feb a new oil is exclusively to be used for the GT engine powered cars. Called C40 GT.
Seems to be related to friction or wear additives related to the non roller rockers on these engines.
They said the current specification will bet transfered to the gt oil and the current Base oil C40 might change
Was done on many oils before with the zddp reduction for emission or hazard reduction...
Maybe interesting for the one or the other.
Seems to be related to friction or wear additives related to the non roller rockers on these engines.
They said the current specification will bet transfered to the gt oil and the current Base oil C40 might change
Was done on many oils before with the zddp reduction for emission or hazard reduction...
Maybe interesting for the one or the other.
#30
I did look at the technical specifications for both oils.
HTHS which stands for high temperature high stress .
It is a rating that test the ability of oil to maintain its film strength both oils were 3.8.
I also looked at the velocity index, the higher, the number the better it’s the ability of the oil to maintain its viscosity through various temperature ranges.
The regular C-40 actually has a higher viscosity index than the new oil, not much but it is higher.
Obviously, there must be more to it than this because everything that I can find on these two motor oils shows their performances about the same.
The one thing I couldn’t find is the zinc content on both oils racing oils can go up to 1300 street legal oils are 6– 800 I believe.
I would think if it was anything that was detrimental to the longevity of the engine there would’ve been some type of update from the factory?
It would be in their best interest to be proactive Because it will save them a ton of money
HTHS which stands for high temperature high stress .
It is a rating that test the ability of oil to maintain its film strength both oils were 3.8.
I also looked at the velocity index, the higher, the number the better it’s the ability of the oil to maintain its viscosity through various temperature ranges.
The regular C-40 actually has a higher viscosity index than the new oil, not much but it is higher.
Obviously, there must be more to it than this because everything that I can find on these two motor oils shows their performances about the same.
The one thing I couldn’t find is the zinc content on both oils racing oils can go up to 1300 street legal oils are 6– 800 I believe.
I would think if it was anything that was detrimental to the longevity of the engine there would’ve been some type of update from the factory?
It would be in their best interest to be proactive Because it will save them a ton of money
Generally, higher VI means a better base oil, this new 40 GT oil, unless it has a ton of ZDDP additives and moly, on paper does not look impressive
Mobil 1 ESP X3 spec sheet for reference:
https://www.mobil.com/en-be/passenge...1-esp-x3-0w-40