I have come to accept that PDK at redline is an experience manual transmission cant match. Also, as much as we all love manual transmissions, we arent Ayrton Senna and 9 out of 10 people here arent turning off auto blip and heel toeing on roads we have never driven before rev matching near redline. In theory our mind says “I get to heel and toe” but in reality car is so expensive, engine is so expensive, and revs climb and drop so quickly, we just dont take the risk. Doing this at 120-130 mph slowing down to 100 and downshifting to 4th is risky. Things can go wrong and you may end up in 2. You may end up overshooting your braking zone and under/over steer into trees or wall. Even if you get it right once or twice, often times its not a great outcome. I get the “challenge is great” argument and it is but eventually if you are perfectionist like me it ends up becoming annoyance to the point you push yourself more and more and more to get it right and dont stop.

PDK isnt just an “automatic” “easier” transmission. It gives you formula 1 like experience and thats unique. It matches the character of the car so much. You also get to do left foot braking which coupled with 9k rpm shifts adds to the experience.

Maybe best to have both. Have a manual touring for those days you just want to casually shift and downshift at 6/10ths at most and use the RS for the rest. I personally cannot get over the looks of the RS. It has so much more personality without being over the top.

Then there is the cost. If you own an RS, getting into a 992 GT3 is an extra 100-150k. Your RS is worth MSRP in trade and GT3 is around 325-350k if you equip it similar to RS with PCCB, LWB, etc. So you are paying a 75% of what you paid for your RS for marginally different car. The issue is prices arent normal. If one could sell the RS at a 10-15k loss and get a GT3 at MSRP, this conversation would make a lot more sense. It doesnt make any sense to spend that kind of money. New car has advantages but I dont think those advantages are 70-75% better than the RS (assuming a non WP RS with a 220k MSRP).

 

I agree in the fact that I just can't bring myself to pay $100k over MSRP for a used 22 GT3. Recently a white 22 came on the market in Florida for $275k, I got the build sheet, and it was a $181k MSRP, I just couldn't bring myself to spend that much over MSRP for a used car....then it sold in less than 24 hours. If it was a closer ratio, then it makes more sense and I feel in the next year that the prices will come down on the GT3 and then maybe it will be time to trade up from the RS

 

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It is not possible to "trade up" from an RS to a GT3. It is swings and merry- go-rounds. You lose and gain some with each. Bottom line, it makes no sense to sell a 991.2 GT3 RS to get a 992 GT3, and vice versa!

Instead, spend the money, on professional lessons, learning to extract what is in "each" of the cars.

 

^yes and no

these value threads are so so boring...agree on lessons

just did 6th track day with 992gt3...also did multiple track days with 991rs

I am very good driver...that said if im extracting 70 percent of these cars capabilities im lucky

buy what you can afford and drive...passed 7500 on 992gt3 this weekend

 

Love both cars. 992 gt3 is more refined with updated tech and far more liveable as a daily, 991.2 gt3 rs is very raw.

What drags down the 992 gt3 for me is the terrible brake performance on track. Stomping on the brakes in the RS feels like slamming into a wall. The copperless pads on the 992 are just TERRIBLE and demand an aftermarket solution.

I would only replace my RS with an RS.

 

lolololol truth

 

You don't need aftermarket pads on the 992. Won't the OEM .2 pads work?

 

Yes, until they are also superseded by some copper-free version. And the 991.2 pads are hardly the best available (they are a reasonable compromise for a wide variety of uses though).

 

Yeah the only other option I know of is Pagid RSC1 but they are much more aggressive. Pagid also makes the OEM bads, btw.

And better buy up a lifetime supply of .2 pads before they're all gone!

 

Nice dig! Or try to dig....

It's not about lap times, if that was the case I would buy a cup car. I'm talking about overall driving and tech. The new car will always win. and from a my personal performance stand point I am more than qualified and experienced. literaly everyone who has owned both and more they would agree with what I am saying... The new car BLOWS away the older car. The 991.2 RS looks like an old car already compared to the 992. New suspension, new tech, new interior etc...

 

Nice catch on the dig as it was intended. While I respect your opinion, you make some pretty exaggerative statements like "literally everyone who's owned both would agree". That's factually incorrect. While I know many who share your sentiment, I equally know many more who still prefer the 991.2 RS over the 992 GT3. And then to say the 991.2 RS already looks like an old car and the new one blows it away says too me you are way in too deep with the 992 GT3 cool aid. Enjoy your car as I'm sure you will.

 

I traded a .2 gt3rs for a 992 gt3. It's true, after owning the 992 the gt3rs now looks and feels old to me. The 991 interior is dated and the rs had a very stiff and bouncy suspension. I was hesitant to trade a rs for a 992 but in hind sight I definitely made the right decision for me.The new 992 gt3 is like a scalpel where the rs was more like a machete. Buy the one You like!

 

How many 992 GT3's does Porsche plan to make?

 

I can tell that you must be a new 991.2 owner lol it's ok your car is still rad. Keep making digs thats what makes this forum so great. lol

 

My first impression on the new GT3 was the ride quality. Then I took it through a canyon and holly smokes what a difference! The suspension is night and day better. Also the torque comes on way better as well. What else have you noticed?