PTS

A car has utility, a wrist watch does nothing

InfamousS/T

Easy way to take 200 plus k over seas for business . The watch is a tool .

sechsgang

Wristwatch does plenty...just nothing that you find of value

markiegt3

Telling the time is useful, surely?

PTS

Come on now...any person on earth that checks the time uses a phone to do so. Villages in Africa have cell phones with the time on them. No one buys a Patek to check the time. It's a status symbol. Nothing wrong if that's your thing but let's not pretend people spend $300k on an analog wrist watch because it tells the time.

Do tell

markiegt3

[QUOTE=PTS;19562362]Come on now...any person on earth that checks the time uses a phone to do so. Villages in Africa have cell phones with the time on them. No one buys a Patek to check the time. It's a status symbol. Nothing wrong if that's your thing but let's not pretend people spend $300k on an analog wrist watch because it tells the time.

I didn't say that a nice watch isn't viewed by many as a status symbol, but they are also useful.

I presume you own a Porsche, being on this forum, maybe a 992 ST?? A Hyundai SUV or Dacia Duster will move people and their luggage (more people and more luggage), but you own a beautiful car, which some own purely as a status symbol.

I like to marvel at a beautiful movement & dial on a Patek or an A Lange & Sohne etc. They are not art, as like a car they serve a purpose, but some are gorgeous (imo)

carcommander

Patek is not a great status symbol. Only another watch guy knows what it is. A gold Rolex is a better status symbol. Same for AP or Lange. Most people don’t know the deference between 911’s either. I’m not interested in a Porsche watch.

PTS

I don't want to derail this thread any further so this will be my last response re watches

They are not useful. Phones have more accurate clocks than an analog watch. Phones are connected to satellites that are always accurate for showing the time.

The car to watch analogy is poor.

People pay more for a car that can evoke emotions and sensations that other, cheaper cars cannot. They pay for a performance level that other, cheaper cars cannot achieve. You as the owner are driving the car. It does not do the above without you as part of the equation. An iphone performs the function of telling time as good if not better than that $300k Patek does, which is it's only utility.

If you buy watches for collectability, beauty/art, or status, that makes sense. But they possess no utility beyond the phone already in your pocket, which also has the internet.

GrantG

I agree that the analogy has been poor, but it is becoming more apt as the performance of EV's (the Quartz watches of the Auto world) eclipse that of some of our favorite NA engined, Manual geabox examples.

At some point, we're just appreciating these cars for reasons besides pure performance (as some enjoy mechanical watches).

unotaz

True, so how come you want to drive a manual transmission car when a CVT transmission in electric cars are more efficient and more precise?

A similar argument can be made for extreme complicated manual winding watches like a perpetual calendar with split choronograph function. You need to set the watch, wind the watch every 40-60 hours since it's not an automatic. A complicated watch like that "does not do the above without you as part of the equation." Using your words from above.

A PDK transmission or a Tesla will out-accelerate your 911ST, be more efficient with energy/consumption, and fit more luggage and carry more people in the process. So how come you don't want to buy a Tesla and had to fight teeth and nails for a manual transmission ST?

If you buy cars for collectability, beauty/art, or status, that makes sense. But they possess no utility beyond the Tesla that already exists in this world, which also has a great tablet with internet connection! (See what I did there )

PTS

ipse dixit

I'd rather have a PP 5959 than any GT car. Past or present.

usctrojanGT3

Over a CGT?

markiegt3

OK, we will agree to disagree!!

white6speed

Well it appears you can own a mechanical watch or a mechanical car but you can’t own or like both. This discussion represents the division in this country. Your opinion is correct and mine is wrong or vice versa and this is attached to a thread about one of Porsches newer cars. Can’t wait for politics to roll in in the next few months.