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#6286
nobody seems to want to pay a premium for Ev… it’s seen as an appliance, A-B-A commuter perfection, but no passion.
EV Boxster sales will show this in stark reality in the sub $100k segment. But nobody (nobody) wants an EV Porsche $1-2 million. Hypercar.
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#6287
Thank you for being a real human being which is a rarity around here. Not a VIP but getting a S/T at list because I've bought a lot of cars over 15 years and because the dealer doesn't play games, and when asked about a simple swap of window trim was told there are no CXX slots left. So the guys getting 22 of 23 CXX, congrats to them. The rest of us are still living thru the repercussions of the VIP program. I'm excited to get this car even with a lame-*** color and nothing custom.
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#6288
Thank you for being a real human being which is a rarity around here. Not a VIP but getting a S/T at list because I've bought a lot of cars over 15 years and because the dealer doesn't play games, and when asked about a simple swap of window trim was told there are no CXX slots left. So the guys getting 22 of 23 CXX, congrats to them. The rest of us are still living thru the repercussions of the VIP program. I'm excited to get this car even with a lame-*** color and nothing custom.
#6290
I also agree - whether the US system with ADM or the EU system based on dealer relationship. Actually the EU system is harder since if you are a first time buyer you will usually not get a new car even if you have f_ck you koney and can pay any ADM. Additionally try to move to Ferrari and then we talk.
#6291
Anyone else get a massive push on delivery date? It appears to be a TYD error as the chronology shows huge windows (i.e. Your car has left the German port 08/31 - 09/21) for milestone dates as opposed to the regular singular, estimated dates. My delivery date went from 10/08 to 12/12
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#6292
991.2 GT3 Touring burst the 911R to some extent
Will the 992.2 GT3 Touring (with ST suspension etc & other tasty options from the 992.1 GT3 RS) burst the ST bubble?
And the 992.2 2wd Turbo manual do the same to the 992 Sport Classic?
Porsche is not a hedge fund:
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/30/...bJUFXuclox9QHG
Will the 992.2 GT3 Touring (with ST suspension etc & other tasty options from the 992.1 GT3 RS) burst the ST bubble?
And the 992.2 2wd Turbo manual do the same to the 992 Sport Classic?
Porsche is not a hedge fund:
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/30/...bJUFXuclox9QHG
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#6293
991.2 GT3 Touring burst the 911R to some extent
Will the 992.2 GT3 Touring (with ST suspension etc & other tasty options from the 992.1 GT3 RS) burst the ST bubble?
And the 992.2 2wd Turbo manual do the same to the 992 Sport Classic?
Porsche is not a hedge fund:
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/30/...bJUFXuclox9QHG
Will the 992.2 GT3 Touring (with ST suspension etc & other tasty options from the 992.1 GT3 RS) burst the ST bubble?
And the 992.2 2wd Turbo manual do the same to the 992 Sport Classic?
Porsche is not a hedge fund:
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/30/...bJUFXuclox9QHG
BTW, the R is selling for 2x more than 991.2 GT3
Last edited by PTS; 06-03-2024 at 11:45 AM.
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#6294
991.2 GT3 Touring burst the 911R to some extent
Will the 992.2 GT3 Touring (with ST suspension etc & other tasty options from the 992.1 GT3 RS) burst the ST bubble?
And the 992.2 2wd Turbo manual do the same to the 992 Sport Classic?
Porsche is not a hedge fund:
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/30/...bJUFXuclox9QHG
Will the 992.2 GT3 Touring (with ST suspension etc & other tasty options from the 992.1 GT3 RS) burst the ST bubble?
And the 992.2 2wd Turbo manual do the same to the 992 Sport Classic?
Porsche is not a hedge fund:
https://www.autoblog.com/2017/05/30/...bJUFXuclox9QHG
To be fair, the Touring really only burst the R mega bubble as it was supposed to be the last manual GT car...and when that changed, thats really what did it at the time and we still have R's at 1.75-2x MSRP still today. I dont think anyone in the market for an ST thinks that some of the tricks from it wont head into the 992.2 GT3/T but given the demand for those, its not like that stops about anything money wise anymore as the demand for that car will also be stratospheric. The interesting one is the SC and Turbo IF they were to actually do that...but even still, the unique SC body and general limitation will always command a premium and the SC never really hit that 800k level anyways.
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#6295
Anyone else get a massive push on delivery date? It appears to be a TYD error as the chronology shows huge windows (i.e. Your car has left the German port 08/31 - 09/21) for milestone dates as opposed to the regular singular, estimated dates. My delivery date went from 10/08 to 12/12
10/16 went to 9/25 - 11/25. Maybe they’re being more transparent about the potential ambiguity instead of picking exact dates that can’t be guaranteed.
#6296
I also agree - whether the US system with ADM or the EU system based on dealer relationship. Actually the EU system is harder since if you are a first time buyer you will usually not get a new car even if you have f_ck you koney and can pay any ADM. Additionally try to move to Ferrari and then we talk.
It’s hilarious that not every S/T is a pts. There aren’t that many, and they’re split between VIPs and folks paying 200+ over. This skew is mismanaged. Flat out. Money left,on the table. These are whales who’d pay even more in Cxx options if they could. But they can’t because Porsche can’t handle the supply.
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#6297
I was referring to Cxx and alluding to PTS. These customizations are very popular and extremely profitable for other marques. Like 40% margins. Buy a Ferrari as an average customer and you can get vastly more paint options and special requests.
It’s hilarious that not every S/T is a pts. There aren’t that many, and they’re split between VIPs and folks paying 200+ over. This skew is mismanaged. Flat out. Money left,on the table. These are whales who’d pay even more in Cxx options if they could. But they can’t because Porsche can’t handle the supply.
It’s hilarious that not every S/T is a pts. There aren’t that many, and they’re split between VIPs and folks paying 200+ over. This skew is mismanaged. Flat out. Money left,on the table. These are whales who’d pay even more in Cxx options if they could. But they can’t because Porsche can’t handle the supply.
Just don't be confused. Its not that Porsche cant facilitate the demand, they dont want too.
#6298
I was referring to Cxx and alluding to PTS. These customizations are very popular and extremely profitable for other marques. Like 40% margins. Buy a Ferrari as an average customer and you can get vastly more paint options and special requests.
It’s hilarious that not every S/T is a pts. There aren’t that many, and they’re split between VIPs and folks paying 200+ over. This skew is mismanaged. Flat out. Money left,on the table. These are whales who’d pay even more in Cxx options if they could. But they can’t because Porsche can’t handle the supply.
It’s hilarious that not every S/T is a pts. There aren’t that many, and they’re split between VIPs and folks paying 200+ over. This skew is mismanaged. Flat out. Money left,on the table. These are whales who’d pay even more in Cxx options if they could. But they can’t because Porsche can’t handle the supply.
Sucks for me that I don’t get an Irish green over tan st with “icons of cool” delete, but the strategy is sensible.
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