992 GT3 vs 991.2 GT3RS
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992 GT3 vs 991.2 GT3RS
There has been posts here and there about comparing these two cars but I dont believe there has been a structured conversation focusing on just two of them. I am trying to decide whether or not to get the 992 GT3 to compliment the RS or to replace it. So its not an “if” but more of a how question in my case.
I am curious to hear from people who have own(ed) and drive(n) both. Particularly around the following areas:
- Steering responsiveness
- Suspension behavior (stiffness/damping)
- Noise inside and outside of the car
- Appearance from outside (hard to tell from pictures)
- And the overall driving experience
My 992 GT3 will be manual. So maybe not a fair comparison. I drive my RS with left foot braking all the time. It gives me that very motorsport feeling. But I miss manual.
Comparing 991.2 GT3 isnt really in scope as that car felt like a completely different car when I drove it back to back with my RS. Steering wheel had a lot of slack, not as precise (and the wheel itself was larger), sound inside was a lot more muted, it was very soft riding car (relatively speaking).
I am curious to hear from people who have own(ed) and drive(n) both. Particularly around the following areas:
- Steering responsiveness
- Suspension behavior (stiffness/damping)
- Noise inside and outside of the car
- Appearance from outside (hard to tell from pictures)
- And the overall driving experience
My 992 GT3 will be manual. So maybe not a fair comparison. I drive my RS with left foot braking all the time. It gives me that very motorsport feeling. But I miss manual.
Comparing 991.2 GT3 isnt really in scope as that car felt like a completely different car when I drove it back to back with my RS. Steering wheel had a lot of slack, not as precise (and the wheel itself was larger), sound inside was a lot more muted, it was very soft riding car (relatively speaking).
Last edited by 3-Pedals; 11-14-2021 at 10:10 AM.
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Manual 992 and a PDK RS is a great combo. Not sure you can compare the two. Keep both.
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I owned a 991.2 GT3 and have several friends with RS. I’ve driven GT3RS a few times.
My 992 GT3 arrives this week so I haven’t driven it yet.
My take is that looks are subjective, you either love the RS look or you don’t. I like how the 992 GT3 is very close to the 991.2 GT3 RS look but without the side vents. I do still think the standard 991.2 GT3 is the prettiest winged car of the last few years though.
It seems performance is pretty identical on 991.2 GT3 RS as it is to 992 GT3. The 992 has slightly faster ring times if I remember correctly, but used cup 2 R tires… so these cars seem to be pretty even if not identical in performance.
I choose the 992 GT3 because I love the idea of last gen RS level of performance with a manual transmission. I think it’s the closest thing you can get to a 997.2 RS 4.0 without spending 500k.
If you plan to track and are comparing PDK to PDK I’d stick to 991.2 RS. Resale will likely be better. Everything else is subjective but RS is RS.
My 992 GT3 arrives this week so I haven’t driven it yet.
My take is that looks are subjective, you either love the RS look or you don’t. I like how the 992 GT3 is very close to the 991.2 GT3 RS look but without the side vents. I do still think the standard 991.2 GT3 is the prettiest winged car of the last few years though.
It seems performance is pretty identical on 991.2 GT3 RS as it is to 992 GT3. The 992 has slightly faster ring times if I remember correctly, but used cup 2 R tires… so these cars seem to be pretty even if not identical in performance.
I choose the 992 GT3 because I love the idea of last gen RS level of performance with a manual transmission. I think it’s the closest thing you can get to a 997.2 RS 4.0 without spending 500k.
If you plan to track and are comparing PDK to PDK I’d stick to 991.2 RS. Resale will likely be better. Everything else is subjective but RS is RS.
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I think the 991.2 RS ring time was on 2R tires - same compound.
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I’ve owned, the .2 3RS and 991.2 GT3. Have 992 GT3 now. A very different car in feel and sound. I still have a 2RS so I have a raw car. If I were you I would keep the RS and compare them. Sell the one you like the least.
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Can you elaborate a bit more? What do you mean by very different car?
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I drove my ‘18 GT3 to pick up my 992 GT3. With the normal suspension setting it feels about like a turbo. Steering is more sensitive. Exhaust note is different. I like the shifter action. The biggest difference to me is the car feels much more neutral in a corner. To me, it’s feels less race car like and at the same time much more capable. I think some will like the feel of the 991 cars more. I like the feel of new car.
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I drove my ‘18 GT3 to pick up my 992 GT3. With the normal suspension setting it feels about like a turbo. Steering is more sensitive. Exhaust note is different. I like the shifter action. The biggest difference to me is the car feels much more neutral in a corner. To me, it’s feels less race car like and at the same time much more capable. I think some will like the feel of the 991 cars more. I like the feel of new car.
I drove a 991.2 GT3 6MT several times and there is no comparison to my 3RS. As I said in my OP, the steering of the 991 GT3, suspension, sound, are all a few notches below. I dont know where 992 is relative to the 3RS.
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I’m wondering the same as op too. Have a 991.2RS and 992 gt3 manual on order coming in January. Don’t know if I should sell the RS or just keep both. Hopefully RS price doesn’t drop too hard when then release the 992 RS
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- Steering responsiveness: very close but if you have sensitive hands, the feedback on 992 is better
- Suspension behavior (stiffness/damping): for 992 the different settings have more distinct feel whereas 991.2GT3RS or 991.1GT3RS the shock settings are not as differentiated from one mode to another
- Noise inside and outside of the car: 992 is MUCH quieter until you are on it
- Appearance from outside (hard to tell from pictures): not sure what u mean. both look terrible compare to Mac, ferrari, CGT etc... anyone thing 911 looks good... likely failed art. I was art, art history, architect major.. and have more 911's then I would think anyone round. never once did I think they looked good.
- And the overall driving experience: not on track, so hard to tell. the shifting speed of pdk on rS (manual on 992) is insane and downshifting is wonderful. handling is very close on street except turn-in. 991GT3RS does NOT turn it ... 992 easy.
My 992 GT3 will be manual. So maybe not a fair comparison. I drive my RS with left foot braking all the time. It gives me that very motorsport feeling. But I miss manual.
u can left foot brake on 992 manual as well. I do that on 991 manual or any manual for that matter, when situation calls for.
Comparing 991.2 GT3 isnt really in scope as that car felt like a completely different car when I drove it back to back with my RS. Steering wheel had a lot of slack, not as precise (and the wheel itself was larger), sound inside was a lot more muted, it was very soft riding car (relatively speaking)
991.2GT3 is more softly sprung vs RS but on canyon handling is on par or better than RS b/c you need just a tad of give to deal with road imperfection and quickly L-R-L-R turns.
- Suspension behavior (stiffness/damping): for 992 the different settings have more distinct feel whereas 991.2GT3RS or 991.1GT3RS the shock settings are not as differentiated from one mode to another
- Noise inside and outside of the car: 992 is MUCH quieter until you are on it
- Appearance from outside (hard to tell from pictures): not sure what u mean. both look terrible compare to Mac, ferrari, CGT etc... anyone thing 911 looks good... likely failed art. I was art, art history, architect major.. and have more 911's then I would think anyone round. never once did I think they looked good.
- And the overall driving experience: not on track, so hard to tell. the shifting speed of pdk on rS (manual on 992) is insane and downshifting is wonderful. handling is very close on street except turn-in. 991GT3RS does NOT turn it ... 992 easy.
My 992 GT3 will be manual. So maybe not a fair comparison. I drive my RS with left foot braking all the time. It gives me that very motorsport feeling. But I miss manual.
u can left foot brake on 992 manual as well. I do that on 991 manual or any manual for that matter, when situation calls for.
Comparing 991.2 GT3 isnt really in scope as that car felt like a completely different car when I drove it back to back with my RS. Steering wheel had a lot of slack, not as precise (and the wheel itself was larger), sound inside was a lot more muted, it was very soft riding car (relatively speaking)
991.2GT3 is more softly sprung vs RS but on canyon handling is on par or better than RS b/c you need just a tad of give to deal with road imperfection and quickly L-R-L-R turns.
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- Steering responsiveness: very close but if you have sensitive hands, the feedback on 992 is better
- Suspension behavior (stiffness/damping): for 992 the different settings have more distinct feel whereas 991.2GT3RS or 991.1GT3RS the shock settings are not as differentiated from one mode to another
- Noise inside and outside of the car: 992 is MUCH quieter until you are on it
- Appearance from outside (hard to tell from pictures): not sure what u mean. both look terrible compare to Mac, ferrari, CGT etc... anyone thing 911 looks good... likely failed art. I was art, art history, architect major.. and have more 911's then I would think anyone round. never once did I think they looked good.
- And the overall driving experience: not on track, so hard to tell. the shifting speed of pdk on rS (manual on 992) is insane and downshifting is wonderful. handling is very close on street except turn-in. 991GT3RS does NOT turn it ... 992 easy.
My 992 GT3 will be manual. So maybe not a fair comparison. I drive my RS with left foot braking all the time. It gives me that very motorsport feeling. But I miss manual.
u can left foot brake on 992 manual as well. I do that on 991 manual or any manual for that matter, when situation calls for.
Comparing 991.2 GT3 isnt really in scope as that car felt like a completely different car when I drove it back to back with my RS. Steering wheel had a lot of slack, not as precise (and the wheel itself was larger), sound inside was a lot more muted, it was very soft riding car (relatively speaking)
991.2GT3 is more softly sprung vs RS but on canyon handling is on par or better than RS b/c you need just a tad of give to deal with road imperfection and quickly L-R-L-R turns.
- Suspension behavior (stiffness/damping): for 992 the different settings have more distinct feel whereas 991.2GT3RS or 991.1GT3RS the shock settings are not as differentiated from one mode to another
- Noise inside and outside of the car: 992 is MUCH quieter until you are on it
- Appearance from outside (hard to tell from pictures): not sure what u mean. both look terrible compare to Mac, ferrari, CGT etc... anyone thing 911 looks good... likely failed art. I was art, art history, architect major.. and have more 911's then I would think anyone round. never once did I think they looked good.
- And the overall driving experience: not on track, so hard to tell. the shifting speed of pdk on rS (manual on 992) is insane and downshifting is wonderful. handling is very close on street except turn-in. 991GT3RS does NOT turn it ... 992 easy.
My 992 GT3 will be manual. So maybe not a fair comparison. I drive my RS with left foot braking all the time. It gives me that very motorsport feeling. But I miss manual.
u can left foot brake on 992 manual as well. I do that on 991 manual or any manual for that matter, when situation calls for.
Comparing 991.2 GT3 isnt really in scope as that car felt like a completely different car when I drove it back to back with my RS. Steering wheel had a lot of slack, not as precise (and the wheel itself was larger), sound inside was a lot more muted, it was very soft riding car (relatively speaking)
991.2GT3 is more softly sprung vs RS but on canyon handling is on par or better than RS b/c you need just a tad of give to deal with road imperfection and quickly L-R-L-R turns.
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My .2 3RS was a little stiffer and a little louder than my .2GT3 wing. Honestly other than looks I didn’t perceive that much difference. That GT3 and my 992 GT3 are both manuals. I agree with Mooty, if you can keep both, then decide between them. For that matter, I could have kept my ‘16RS and been happy.
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Last weekend I was at a private track day and had the chance to drive the 992 GT3 (PDK) for about an hour and a half, split roughly 45 mins on back roads and about the same on a short track, I had my .2RS on hand for some shake down time.
(1) The GT3 was on Good Years (and not CUP2R)
(2) The first thing I noticed was the general lack of noise below about 4000 rpm - this is a very noticeable difference
(3) Above about 4000RPM the noise opens up but not to the levels of the RS
(4) Good turn in similar to the RS at road speeds
(5) Slightly better compliance at road speeds than the RS - I would describe the RS as either bumpy or bouncy (depending on which setting you choose).
(6) On track the RS was quicker (although it was on Cup2R) but having said that the 992GT3 felt better on the Good Years than the RS on standard Cup2. Specifically reduced front end push/ tendency to understeer/more certain at the limit.
The RS is a more visceral experience, on Cup2R tires, there wouldn't be much in it round a track - the ultimate difference being the driver.
For me personally, this is my second experience of the 992 GT3 and for me the visceral nature of the RS is the standout difference. I will likely keep my 991.2RS and most likely trade out my 720S when the 992 GT3RS becomes available.
(1) The GT3 was on Good Years (and not CUP2R)
(2) The first thing I noticed was the general lack of noise below about 4000 rpm - this is a very noticeable difference
(3) Above about 4000RPM the noise opens up but not to the levels of the RS
(4) Good turn in similar to the RS at road speeds
(5) Slightly better compliance at road speeds than the RS - I would describe the RS as either bumpy or bouncy (depending on which setting you choose).
(6) On track the RS was quicker (although it was on Cup2R) but having said that the 992GT3 felt better on the Good Years than the RS on standard Cup2. Specifically reduced front end push/ tendency to understeer/more certain at the limit.
The RS is a more visceral experience, on Cup2R tires, there wouldn't be much in it round a track - the ultimate difference being the driver.
For me personally, this is my second experience of the 992 GT3 and for me the visceral nature of the RS is the standout difference. I will likely keep my 991.2RS and most likely trade out my 720S when the 992 GT3RS becomes available.
Last edited by groundhog; 11-14-2021 at 10:06 PM.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback.