python

did you not watch the video? They have the piping, but no internals.

this is like having a suppressor for a gun, but without the baffles, it doesnt suppress anything.

neanicu

This is retarded if true,it makes ZERO sense! Why is pdk quieter? This is BS...

Engeljizzle

I have a beautiful PTS manual car coming for all you Californians. DM me. Will have a big tax, but hey, you guys are used to that. LOL.

Type901

After reading the news, I am super bummed. This is a nightmare. I'm in California but actually have my allocation coming from another state. So, while the news says that all GT3 models sold in California will be PDK-only, does it also prevent you from bringing a 6-speed manual in from another state and registering it? I presume it would, but I'd like to know. I'm guessing it's like trying to register a car in CA that isn't 50-state emissions legal.

smiles11

https://rennlist.com/forums/718-gts-...ispreloading=1

Which has effected the sound. So I’d imagine it will be fitted to the GT3 unfortunately.

michaeldorian

Yeah. This is the key question here. It is treated as a 50-state legal smog thing. This might be the first car that is affected by this? So it will set some new precedent on how this is handle. It's sound related, not smog related. I wonder if Porsche will get around it by adding something to curb the noise the way Ducati did in Japan. The time consuming part will be re-certifications.

Russv

New York follows California emission standards. You’re welcome.

PTS

My buddy runs a Porsche store in norcal and confirmed this cannot be done, buying a manual out of state and registering in Cali

Bartleby7334

This has nothing to do with emissions. it has to do with selling cars that exceed 95db sound levels when noise tests are conducted

The issue has to do with an outdated California Code of Regulations testing procedure (SAE J1470) that dates back to 1992, when manual cars had four or five gears. A newer version of this test -- SAE J2805 -- was made available in May 2020, but it has not been adopted by the California Highway Patrol. "We understand that CHP has been planning to update [the test] to incorporate the new SAE procedure," Porsche said. "At this juncture, we are awaiting this regulatory claim."

Vehicle Code 27151

(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer’s gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

PTS

Scary words from a California regulatory agency/department

raymort

Any word on what the procedure is going to be for cars ordered with a MT that are already scheduled for production and for out of state residents?

Randy M

The weather, c'mon man...

raymort

Is this a preview for CARB delays…

Freddie Two Bs

Mods can you please merge the two threads please

michaeldorian

Just got this response from one of my SA in CA. Take it for what it's worth.