992 GT3RS
#5986
Let the GT2RS be the ring king, that's what those big turbo cars are for......
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Arnoux (10-05-2022)
#5987
In all seriousness, I think the only marque that really cares about lap times is Porsche.
I mean really cares, it's almost part of the DNA of their GT cars.
I guess its both good and bad.
Good in that we have a metric to judge all the generations of cars and their iterative improvements.
Bad in that sometimes you feel like Porsche is simply building a car to a specific Ring time and forgetting all else, i.e., how it drives and handles outside of a 13 mile track, or whether it is livable day-in day-out.
I mean really cares, it's almost part of the DNA of their GT cars.
I guess its both good and bad.
Good in that we have a metric to judge all the generations of cars and their iterative improvements.
Bad in that sometimes you feel like Porsche is simply building a car to a specific Ring time and forgetting all else, i.e., how it drives and handles outside of a 13 mile track, or whether it is livable day-in day-out.
#5988
In all seriousness, I think the only marque that really cares about lap times is Porsche.
I mean really cares, it's almost part of the DNA of their GT cars.
I guess its both good and bad.
Good in that we have a metric to judge all the generations of cars and their iterative improvements.
Bad in that sometimes you feel like Porsche is simply building a car to a specific Ring time and forgetting all else, i.e., how it drives and handles outside of a 13 mile track, or whether it is livable day-in day-out.
I mean really cares, it's almost part of the DNA of their GT cars.
I guess its both good and bad.
Good in that we have a metric to judge all the generations of cars and their iterative improvements.
Bad in that sometimes you feel like Porsche is simply building a car to a specific Ring time and forgetting all else, i.e., how it drives and handles outside of a 13 mile track, or whether it is livable day-in day-out.
#5989
#5990
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So is 6:49.3 confirmed? I was predicting 6:48.3.
I don't really think it's fair to expect it to be faster than the GT2 RS, which has way more power and costs way more. And getting the pace through grip rather than power is more fun anyway.
Are we comparing with 6:55.3 for the 992 GT3? Delta of 6 secs seems a bit low, I would expect more like 7-8 secs.
I don't really think it's fair to expect it to be faster than the GT2 RS, which has way more power and costs way more. And getting the pace through grip rather than power is more fun anyway.
Are we comparing with 6:55.3 for the 992 GT3? Delta of 6 secs seems a bit low, I would expect more like 7-8 secs.
#5991
#5992
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If the GT3 has Cup 2R and the RS has Cup 2, the tire difference would cancel most of the delta, so no way the RS driven by a journo easily catches the GT3 driven by a pro at full tilt, if those are the tires.
I'm sort of convincing myself that if I can get an RS at MSRP, I'd like to try one for at least a year or two, to have the experience of a lot more grip than I'm used to, and to play with the *****. But still need to know about heat into the cabin, how long the tires last, and ride on the road. And of course I'm unlikely to get one ...
#5993
#5994
In all seriousness, I think the only marque that really cares about lap times is Porsche.
I mean really cares, it's almost part of the DNA of their GT cars.
I guess its both good and bad.
Good in that we have a metric to judge all the generations of cars and their iterative improvements.
Bad in that sometimes you feel like Porsche is simply building a car to a specific Ring time and forgetting all else, i.e., how it drives and handles outside of a 13 mile track, or whether it is livable day-in day-out.
I mean really cares, it's almost part of the DNA of their GT cars.
I guess its both good and bad.
Good in that we have a metric to judge all the generations of cars and their iterative improvements.
Bad in that sometimes you feel like Porsche is simply building a car to a specific Ring time and forgetting all else, i.e., how it drives and handles outside of a 13 mile track, or whether it is livable day-in day-out.
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jfr0317 (10-05-2022)
#5995
If they were doing that (optimizing specifically for N-ring), they would have dropped the NA engine and went high-HP turbos (essentially GT2). RS is quite compromised for N-ring times, where very long straights reward high horsepower and high top speeds more than almost any other track. This RS seems to be optimized for medium-speed tracks, where aero already works (you'll feel it probably from 60MPH), but the straights are not as long as where aero drag becomes too much of liability given the lack of monstrous HP to compensate. So I would not be surprised with an underwhelming N-ring lap time, at least compared to other tracks. I was hoping that active aero would reduce drag more than it does - to sub-GT3 levels - but that does not seem the case.
This car is going to be a lot of car to drive at 10/10ths and then you factor in all the technical adjustments…… you’re going to need be a highly skilled racing car driver with a great understanding of car dynamics and engineering to get the most out of this car. And for that reason alone I’m all in.
#5997
Originally Posted by GentlemanRacer
Go to the end to see Jorg do his thing