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I’m biased because I own a 991.2 GT3, but this sounds underwhelming. Only +10 horsepower accompanied by expensive measures to keep weight the same. Seems the net improvements are limited to better aero, quicker throttle response from the ITBs, and better handling due to the new front wishbones. Meanwhile, the particulate filters may mean a net detriment to sound.
Then there are the looks. More subjective for sure, but I just don’t think either the exterior or interior design is as cohesive or as sporty.
I’ll be a little surprised if the final product only has 10hp more than 991.2 (on same rating basis). 991.2 had 493hp or 500PS.
I’ll be a little surprised if the final product only has 10hp more than 991.2 (on same rating basis). 991.2 had 493hp or 500PS.
Article says the gain is only 10 horsepower, with AP explicitly explaining they had to target aero improvements because it wasn't possible to extract much more from the engine.
That said, they could mean a 10 horsepower gain over the RS or Speedster. Even then, the improvement would be marginal.
Carbon hood, engine deck lid and wing. Light weight glass, exhaust including OPF 6kg, 408mm steel brakes, 410mm carbon. Double wishbone and interior pretty much as always, but in 992 version. Talks about having 10 more hp even with OPF, but don’t know if that was a statement of the total power or just referring to the OPF. However, AP says that when you don’t have more power then you have to work on aero...
Oh, and for those who wonder, yes, the rear bumper is still with camouflage in this picture and yes there still is some on the swan neck as well. The rest is pretty much how it will look.
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Re: double wishbone suspension. Do they mean on the front? That will be a big change on the 911 chassis.
Article says the gain is only 10 horsepower, with AP explicitly explaining they had to target aero improvements because it wasn't possible to extract much more from the engine.
That said, they could mean a 10 horsepower gain over the RS or Speedster. Even then, the improvement would be marginal.
Would be 30 hp (6%) if compared to
RS (sounds decent). That’s the range I was hoping for (expecting)
Article says the gain is only 10 horsepower, with AP explicitly explaining they had to target aero improvements because it wasn't possible to extract much more from the engine.
That said, they could mean a 10 horsepower gain over the RS or Speedster. Even then, the improvement would be marginal.
It shows 510 hp in the image on this thread however. Current RS is 520 HP. I don't think GT3 is 530 and then new RS is 550.
It shows 510 hp in the image on this thread however. Current RS is 520 HP. I don't think GT3 is 530 and then new RS is 550.
If 510PS is the final number, that leads me to think they're really holding back for the 50th Anniversary Carrera RS (and the GT3 RS, if not the same car). If the RS was going to have some sort of electrical assistance, then I think they'd let the GT3 have more than 510PS...
If 510PS is the final number, that leads me to think they're really holding back for the 50th Anniversary Carrera RS (and the GT3 RS, if not the same car). If the RS was going to have some sort of electrical assistance, then I think they'd let the GT3 have more than 510PS...
that doesn't make sense to me? AP addresses this saying that's all they could get out of it so they had to focus on aero.. only way to make more is higher revs and clearly they didn't go that risky route.
I’m biased because I own a 991.2 GT3, but this sounds underwhelming. Only +10 horsepower accompanied by expensive measures to keep weight the same. Seems the net improvements are limited to better aero, quicker throttle response from the ITBs, and better handling due to the new front wishbones. Meanwhile, the particulate filters may mean a net detriment to sound.
Then there are the looks. More subjective for sure, but I just don’t think either the exterior or interior design is as cohesive or as sporty.
Looks good and I do like it, but doesn’t seem like a worthy upgrade from decently modded .2. After adding tune and full dundon street headers/exhaust, I don’t see the 992.1 having more power than that. Aero and handling I’m sure will be better, but I’m happy with current setup. If anything I don’t think I’d consider until the 992.2.
Well, it was only an 18hp jump from the .1 to the .2
I think the track figures will help people decide if this is a formidable go-around. That said, it IS THE LAST naturally-aspirated manual-transmissioned GT3 4.0L from Porsche.
Well, it was only an 18hp jump from the .1 to the .2
I think the track figures will help people decide if this is a formidable go-around. That said, it IS THE LAST naturally-aspirated manual-transmissioned GT3 4.0L from Porsche.
I’m biased because I own a 991.2 GT3, but this sounds underwhelming. Only +10 horsepower accompanied by expensive measures to keep weight the same. Seems the net improvements are limited to better aero, quicker throttle response from the ITBs, and better handling due to the new front wishbones. Meanwhile, the particulate filters may mean a net detriment to sound.
Then there are the looks. More subjective for sure, but I just don’t think either the exterior or interior design is as cohesive or as sporty.
Originally Posted by GrantG
I’ll be a little surprised if the final product only has 10hp more than 991.2 (on same rating basis). 991.2 had 493hp or 500PS.
Originally Posted by GrantG
Would be 30 hp (6%) if compared to
RS (sounds decent). That’s the range I was hoping for (expecting)
These auto mags are always, always wrong on the power figures. No way will the 992 GT3 come in with less power than the 991.2 RS. I expect 520-530 hp for the 992.1 GT3 and about 8 more torque.
Agree though, that it won't be a huge jump in power, and that the 992.2 GT3 will be the one to get if you plan to upgrade in the 992 generation, as the 992.2 GT3 will get the 4.2L engine and a bigger jump in power compared to engine changes in the 992.1 GT3.
Well, it was only an 18hp jump from the .1 to the .2
I think the track figures will help people decide if this is a formidable go-around. That said, it IS THE LAST naturally-aspirated manual-transmissioned GT3 4.0L from Porsche.
there was much more than an 18 hp jump from the .1 GT3. More like a 45-48 hp improvement. The .2 GT engines are vastly better than the .1 engines.
And only the .2 RS might get a hybrid. The .2 GT3 will still have an NA engine with a manual option.
11-15-2020, 01:27 PM
