HPDE Tire pressure
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A little follow up after the trackday. Hot pressures of 36R/33F worked well. The tires never got greasy and had a fair amount of grip. The rise from warm pressure was 5-6lbs on a 85 degree day.
All in all I was quite impressed with the car on the track. It had enough grunt, it stuck, and it stopped well. If I do more track days I think I'd want a more aggressive pad but all in all the stock ones worked well.
All in all I was quite impressed with the car on the track. It had enough grunt, it stuck, and it stopped well. If I do more track days I think I'd want a more aggressive pad but all in all the stock ones worked well.
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Keep in mind Porsche TPMS typically runs 2 psi low, meaning if it shows 33, it's actually 35. Could be different, so it pays to compare against a calibrated gauge. I don't like anything above 35 hot, but it's largely a personal matter... but it still pays to play to find the optimum setting for your car and performance level
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So you started at 28/31 cold? I start w 29/33 and see 38/41 after a 25 mins session at 85F OAT. The 41 is a bit greasy but any less and the edge of the rear tires take a "beating"! I drive to/from DEs on my track wheels/tires (currently Pzero but switching to Conti Extreme Contact Sport soon). Also, at my experience (instructor/A group) the stock pads don't cut it. Clark @ Apex recommended Padgit PS-29 (yellow) which I like except they do squeak towards the end of light braking around town. Slotted vs drilled rotors are also better for the track heat cycles. FYI.
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Keep in mind Porsche TPMS typically runs 2 psi low, meaning if it shows 33, it's actually 35. Could be different, so it pays to compare against a calibrated gauge. I don't like anything above 35 hot, but it's largely a personal matter... but it still pays to play to find the optimum setting for your car and performance level
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If you've checked your TPMS against a gauge you trust and they are off by +2 psi then you are good to go, just remember to apply your adjustments (the -2 plus knowing the bar to psi round off) when you check the TPMS on a straight.
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Funny but you just described my problem with the MPSS. If the pressure was on the low side it would roll the tire and chew into the shoulder, and if I had the pressures on the high side they were quite greasy. This made it very hard to balance the pressures because the acceptable window wasn't very large. MPSC2 solved that problem ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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very different kettle of fish to track crossover tires or dedicated track tires which have very stiff sidewalls - thus you drop the temp before you start and then build to operating temperature.
OP - Do not deflate road tires for/prior to track use - its an internet myth and will simply destroy your sidewalls and shoulders quick smart.
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Just came back from a DE weekend. Thanks to the collective knowledge on tire pressure we had an easy time.
Running P Zeros. Started with cold 30F /32R (car was at track overnight). Let them warm up and then bled to 35F / 38R right after the session and kept to those pressures. They definitely get slippery when they get over 40 psi or so or overheat.
Will replace them with PS4s when they are used up.
Running P Zeros. Started with cold 30F /32R (car was at track overnight). Let them warm up and then bled to 35F / 38R right after the session and kept to those pressures. They definitely get slippery when they get over 40 psi or so or overheat.
Will replace them with PS4s when they are used up.
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I have a 2014 Carrera S with Pirelli Pzero and have my first track day with this car on Friday. I am trying to find out starting target hot tire pressures.
I have a lot of experience in light cars (various Lotus) and a Cayman S. The 911 will be the heaviest and highest HP car I’ve driven and am looking for a good starting point.
Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance
I have a lot of experience in light cars (various Lotus) and a Cayman S. The 911 will be the heaviest and highest HP car I’ve driven and am looking for a good starting point.
Any help is appreciated and thanks in advance
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Keep in mind Porsche TPMS typically runs 2 psi low, meaning if it shows 33, it's actually 35. Could be different, so it pays to compare against a calibrated gauge. I don't like anything above 35 hot, but it's largely a personal matter... but it still pays to play to find the optimum setting for your car and performance level
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So you started at 28/31 cold? I start w 29/33 and see 38/41 after a 25 mins session at 85F OAT. The 41 is a bit greasy but any less and the edge of the rear tires take a "beating"! I drive to/from DEs on my track wheels/tires (currently Pzero but switching to Conti Extreme Contact Sport soon). Also, at my experience (instructor/A group) the stock pads don't cut it. Clark @ Apex recommended Padgit PS-29 (yellow) which I like except they do squeak towards the end of light braking around town. Slotted vs drilled rotors are also better for the track heat cycles. FYI.
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A little follow up after the trackday. Hot pressures of 36R/33F worked well. The tires never got greasy and had a fair amount of grip. The rise from warm pressure was 5-6lbs on a 85 degree day.
All in all I was quite impressed with the car on the track. It had enough grunt, it stuck, and it stopped well. If I do more track days I think I'd want a more aggressive pad but all in all the stock ones worked well.
All in all I was quite impressed with the car on the track. It had enough grunt, it stuck, and it stopped well. If I do more track days I think I'd want a more aggressive pad but all in all the stock ones worked well.
My only quibble is the greasy comment, which can't be helped really, that is just the way everyone talks. Tires of course do not get greasy. They get hard and lose traction however when they get overinflated, something that happens all the time to guys who go by the cold pressure they set in the morning instead of the one they are actually running on the track. Which is the only one that counts. Which you totally get.
Well done.