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Old 06-04-2017, 11:50 AM
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Default What does "Vehicle entry into CT - assembly" mean?

Does anybody know what this means in the build sequence? I don't recall this on my last Porsche. What is a "CT Vehicle"?

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Porsche Exclusive Custom Tailoring?
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Originally Posted by asia
Porsche Exclusive Custom Tailoring?

Good thought. I did order 6 exclusive options on the car but most I would think would be part of the normal production etc. Maybe it's just all the exterior trim bits I selected?


My Exclusive options:
Colored seat belts
Porsche crest on seats
Black Porsche badge
Black wheels
Black spray nozzles
Tinted tail lights


Edit: Wife just chimed in: "oh....CT is like the salon....Snow White is getting her nails done". Yes we name our cars.
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It means you need to move to Connecticut.
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It's possible this car was flagged as having poor welds or quality concerns and they've sent it for 3D CT X-Ray inspection. CT in this respect stands for computed tomography and is a typical non-destructive inspection used in aerospace. I honestly believe in your case it's custom tailoring, but you asked
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
It means you need to move to Connecticut.
Ha! Taxes way too high. If I moved there I wouldn't be able to afford my 981, let alone a 981 and a 991.2C4.

Originally Posted by ieatfishburritos
It's possible this car was flagged as having poor welds or quality concerns and they've sent it for 3D CT X-Ray inspection. CT in this respect stands for computed tomography and is a typical non-destructive inspection used in aerospace. I honestly believe in your case it's custom tailoring, but you asked

Nerd. lol
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Originally Posted by subshooter
What does "Vehicle entry into CT - assembly" mean?
Originally Posted by asia
Porsche Exclusive Custom Tailoring?
Originally Posted by subshooter
I did order 6 exclusive options on the car but
most I would think would be part of the normal
production etc. Maybe it's just all the exterior
trim bits I selected?


My Exclusive options:
Colored seat belts
Porsche crest on seats
Black Porsche badge
Black wheels
Black spray nozzles
Tinted tail lights
'asia' is correct. 'Custom Tailoring'.

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Subshooter:

You have perhaps several 'Exclusive' options on your
list that will elicit a visit to 'Custom Tailoring' after your
car finishes 'normal' assembly at Werk II. Below I have
duplicated (see in blue) for you one of my old posts on
'why' that is!

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Originally Posted by Four Liter
Even though a handful of Exclusive options show up on the
Porsche web-site if you do a build (painted washer nozzles,
seat belt colors, etc) are these handled differently than items
not listed on the site? I understand that things like painted
wheels, mirrors, decals, etc are handled after the car is built,
but if you choose deviating stitching would that be done on
the regular assembly line? Certainly, they don't tear the car
apart to swap out the whole interior. Having said that apparently
the doors do get taken apart after the fact if you choose a
non-standard door pull color. Eduardo to the rescue?
Let's see if we can shed some light on this question. I researched
this topic while I was ordering my MY2012 Boxster Spyder in 2011,
but I believe some, if not most of this information, is still valid. And
I have gone to the factory in 2013 & 2015 to discuss the process
with 'Porsche Exclusive' personnel directly, as well as in frequent
discussions with 'Porsche Exclusive' staff in Atlanta & Los Angeles
here in North America:

A)Porsche has now in place a sophisticated logistical system
that is called 'Just in Time' & 'Just in Sequence' assembly.

B)The Zuffenhausen assembly line of today is much different
from that of the past. Most parts that go into a Porsche production
car is produced & assembled by a subcontractor & comes to the
factory ready to 'bolt' on to the vehicle as it goes down the line.

C)As a result, many of the options selected as 'Porsche Exclusive'
options are done elsewhere & delivered to the assembly line fully
done. For example, deviated stitching on the LWB seats are sewn
elsewhere by Lear & the completed seat is delivered, just in sequence
& just in time, to the assembly line! Same for the 'painted wheels to
match exterior color' option. They are done by the wheel manufacturer
at an outside location & shipped directly to assembly line, where it's
fitted to the car in the normal assembly sequence as it goes down
the line.

D)Many of the 'Porsche Exclusive' options are installed similarly in the
normal assembly line. It depends on how popular the 'PE' options are
& how often they are requested by customers. If these 'Exclusive'
options are commonly ordered, such as 'Sport Exhaust' was in the
.2 987 Spyder, they were fitted in the normal assembly line. It they
were seldom ordered, such as deviating color washer nozzles, standard
chrome units were installed 'in the assembly line' and then exchanged
for the ordered painted units after normal assembly at the 'post-production'
custom tailoring shop. In Zuffenhausen, this is the area behind the
European Delivery room in the Customer Center!

Here are photos of 'Exclusive Options' that are mostly installed
in the custom tailoring department:







And yes, there is sometime major disassembly & re-assembly inside
the car to get the ordered 'Porsche Exclusive' options installed in your
vehicle. To you & me it might seem like a less-than-efficient system
to do the customized work. But you have to take into consideration
that skilled industrial engineers are carefully calculating how best to
assemble the options in the cars as it goes down the production line.
The object is not wasting too much time in the installation (by robots
or humans) of some the 'Porsche Exclusive' options requested by
clients, which are so different from the standard series production
parts as to cause damage to them during the installation process
in the assembly line or simple cause unnecessary delays. The labor
unions have a big say at all German companies, so this is a compromise
that has been worked out between the assembly line engineers & the
line workers!


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Here is a post I wrote on this subject back in 2011.
The 'D' packages are now called 'CXX', but you will
get the gist of what I wrote back then:


Originally Posted by Z356
Let me now go a bit into the nebulous world of 'Porsche Exclusive',
an organization I got to know a bit in the course of my many months
of inquiries and negotiations for the options on my MY2012 Spyder.
'Porsche Exclusive' offers a variety of options that are often not
installed in series production, but are fitted in a special 'custom
tailoring' shop at the factory where cars are taken after normal
production. The threshold for PAG deciding what 'Porsche Exclusive'
is installed in the production line or afterwards is the popularity
of the option. For example, the 'Sport Exhaust' is a popular option
and it's fitted on the line. My headlight cleaning system cover
painted in a deviating exterior color, on the other hand, is seldom
ordered. They were fitted in the custom tailoring area at Zuffenhausen.
To do this, PAG first fits the standard chrome units in series production.
Once the car gets to custom tailoring, the front bumper is removed,
the chrome cover for the spray unit is removed, the painted piece
installed and the bumper is re-installed. This gives you an idea why
this option cost $295.
I am surprised it's this little. These custom
tailoring jobs usually carry a code name that starts with 'C'. My
deviated units above were 'CGU'. Those 'Porsche Exclusive' options
that pass the popularity threshold and are installed at the line seem
to have option codes that start with a 'X'. The Sport Exhaust was
'XLF' and the Sport Shifter was 'XCZ'. Some 'Exclusive Options'
have 'X' codes but are probably done by a third party outside the
factory and arrive 'just in time' for production. For example, the
sport buckets done in Carrera Red leather with embossed Porsche
Crest - these are supplied by external vendors. Altogether I had
9 'X' options, 2 'C' options & one 'number' option - deviating carpeting.
https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-...tom-order.html

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Hope this helps.



Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
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Old 06-05-2017, 03:37 PM
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As of this morning, my car is entering the second week in CT (longer than time in assembly). I suppose (from Eduardo's post above) that's the "price" for LTS in black natural leather and much of that leather sewn with deviated stitching? Is the interior of the car basically built in CT then, Eduardo?



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Originally Posted by Z356
'asia' is correct. 'Custom Tailoring'.



Saludos,
Eduardo
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Wow. Thank you for the detailed repost. It's unbelievable that Porsche has to take the front bumper off to swap out the spray nozzles and that this is standard practice to include this "exclusive" option. I would think that they would just have a bin with different colors but I know this option is not a common choice.


I feel even worse now for selecting black spray nozzles, because I added this trivial option after my build locked. Dealer and PCNA couldn't add the option because it was locked (locked early due to European Delivery). PCNA had to contact PAG to unlock it and add the black spray nozzles.


I did notice that PCNA removed this option from the configurator within days of me changing my order. Maybe just a coincidence.
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Originally Posted by Keadog
As of this morning, my car is entering the second
week in CT (longer than time in assembly). I suppose
(from Eduardo's post above) that's the "price" for LTS
in black natural leather and much of that leather sewn
with deviated stitching? Is the interior of the car basically
built in CT then, Eduardo?
No, I don't think so, Keith. I believe that all of your
Targa's interior panels in 'natural' leather were done
& stitched at Porsche's own 'saddlery' shop in Zuffenhausen:



Then they would have been delivered to the Werk II
assembly line in the normal 'Just in Time'. The seats
were done at Porsche's seat supplier/vendor (not in
Zuffenhausen) in your chosen 'natural' leather 'mit'
the deviated stitching & delivered to the assembly
line too.

Something else from your 'Exclusive' options has to
be the reason for the time your car is now spending
so much time in 'Custom Tailoring'. Also keep in mind
that the old 'Custom Tailoring' shop in the back of the
Factory/European Delivery area of Werk II has been
torned down to create the new Mission E factory.



So 'Exclusive Manufaktur' is working out of temporary
quarters somewhere else at Werk II & this might be
causing delays too. This is a photo of the older 'Custom
Tailoring' shop. They don't have the equipment, room or
staff to totally redo the leather interior of your car. The
place is relatively small & I have been there many times:



Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
Old 06-05-2017, 04:06 PM
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Thanks, Eduardo. Excellent explanation.
The car was in and out of the body shop in 5 working days.
Maybe I should order winter tires.



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