Before and after
#109
Racer
#112
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
So, for the newbies like myself, how can you tell the difference visually between the models? If a car is completely debadged, a rennlister can correctly guess what the trim is just by looking (C4 vs C2 vs C4S vs GTS etc...)? Outside of the ceramic brakes and yellow calipers, what other visual differences are there between the Turbo and Turbo S?
Side note-I'm thinking of debadging my Turbo S from "Porsche 911 Turbo S" in chrome to just "Porsche" in matte black. The car is Agate grey and I think the black badge would look nicer against the grey. I'm also curious how many people in NYC would be able to guess what model the car is.
Side note-I'm thinking of debadging my Turbo S from "Porsche 911 Turbo S" in chrome to just "Porsche" in matte black. The car is Agate grey and I think the black badge would look nicer against the grey. I'm also curious how many people in NYC would be able to guess what model the car is.
Black calipers
Oval exhaust unless it's PSE, then it gets quad exhaust, or in 991.2 2 center exhaust outlets
Carrera S
+50 HP
Red calipers
Quad exhuast, in new 991.2 PSE gets 2 center exhaust outlets
GTS
+30 HP over S
Red calipers, unless they're PCCB, then they're yellow
lowered suspension
Turbo
+infinity HP
Side scoop inlets
Red calipers unless they're PCCB
I don't even have a 911 yet, but can you tell I've been doing my homework?
![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#113
![Default](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Carrera
Black calipers
Oval exhaust unless it's PSE, then it gets quad exhaust, or in 991.2 2 center exhaust outlets
Carrera S
+50 HP
Red calipers
Quad exhuast, in new 991.2 PSE gets 2 center exhaust outlets
GTS
+30 HP over S
Red calipers, unless they're PCCB, then they're yellow
lowered suspension
Turbo
+infinity HP
Side scoop inlets
Red calipers unless they're PCCB
I don't even have a 911 yet, but can you tell I've been doing my homework?![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Black calipers
Oval exhaust unless it's PSE, then it gets quad exhaust, or in 991.2 2 center exhaust outlets
Carrera S
+50 HP
Red calipers
Quad exhuast, in new 991.2 PSE gets 2 center exhaust outlets
GTS
+30 HP over S
Red calipers, unless they're PCCB, then they're yellow
lowered suspension
Turbo
+infinity HP
Side scoop inlets
Red calipers unless they're PCCB
I don't even have a 911 yet, but can you tell I've been doing my homework?
![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
GTS, wide body (side skirts), black badges, sport design front bumper, and tinted tail lights. GTS has the same height as a Carrera S with SPASM.