justabout

I believe no one has the right of way. The law should regulate who yields. Unfortunately thats not typically how US drivers behave. When driving in the U.K. I observed that other drivers would yield to my turn signal when changing lanes. Complete opposite in the US unless your car is heavily damaged then they tend to be cautious.

rk-d

I used to commute on bicycle in college. Every single incident and near-death experience I ever had was the fault of the car.

People see a bicycle on the road and it triggers their homicidal tendencies. I've had people literally try to kill me.

Dana Camanara

Thank you, and thank you for stating exactly where I was coming from. If you look back at thread you will notice multiple comments about "old corvette and pos this, and cr@p old camaro ( and I don't even care about camaros) and then old corvette again". As an owner, and enthusiast, of Corvette and Porsche for a very long time I'm being honest, I have never heard or experienced the same level of sh@t attitude towards Porsche as I have by Porsche owners regarding Corvette. Some would say its elitist bullsh@t, some would say its how often Corvette kicks their a$$ on the racetrack. I was locked into Porsche for a solid decade and went back to Corvette because I got tired of the insane Porsche prices and how much visceral emotion they took out of some of their cars. For the record, I still follow and I'm still a fan of Porsche and I still own a classic Porsche and I would like to get another one. Do I agree with everything they have done? No, absolutely not..Do I think their prices, at times, are insane and their options pricing even more insane...yep. As an American, do I love watching Corvette Racing win...damn right I do.
​​​​Btw, I have made many friends in the Porsche world and some are lifelong friends and really good people. Porsche and Corvette will always be my favorite cars. But, I tell you what, some of the Porsche crowd better wake up....Corvette is making serious cars for much better prices and are charging hard and they have some serious plans for the next few years. Take a look at their reviews and sales figures. The days of brushing them off because of oh so special leather ashtrays are over.
Do I still want to get another GT3 again? Yep, I sure do ! But, sometimes you have to draw the line when you are asked to buy a breaker bar to take off one wheel on a 150 grand car.
I hope everyone enjoys the rest of their weekend

sctanton52

I think a great majority of RL posters are just good-ole car people. Look at some of the lists of ownship, or go the various garage threads and you will see lots of other makes that we all own and love. The new C7-Z06, for example, is one 'sick' car, I had a quick look, did not like the interior at all, but that of course is fully subjective on my part. However, its performance numbers are indeed BIG, (check out its Ring time) but I think my TTS is pretty much equal/a wee-bit better on that front, IMHO . Plus my fuse-box cover is in leather, with deviating stitching, as are my vent slats. But damm I must have missed the leather ashtray tick box, maybe I can still get one at SunCoast for a $1000

Keep it light folks.

My BIL is a big american muscle car guy, we have a good joking relationship about the various makes and models we both own. We always keep it on the friendly side, I love his retro-mod 69 GTO Cab, and his C6 chassis that has a custom 1962 vette fibreglass Cab body replica on it. He also does have a new C7, not the Z06, that we both would love to get on the same track at the same time. I told him I would give him a handycap, or I could drive the BS and we would call it even.

Back to this thread, drive nice in residential areas, have some fun on the open country roads, and have real fun at the track.

Cheers,

Jabs1542

Sorry, I didn't mean it was fair game to run down pedestrians - of course I stop when I see them. The point I was making is that when they walk out onto the road they act like it's 'their' road, and they yell at the traffic that is actually out there obeying the law. It gets ridiculous in the city sometimes, I saw a guy walk out into the street, into a stream of cars, flashing the bird at all oncoming traffic, cars were screeching to a halt, fortunately there were no incidents - and there was a cross walk less than 100 feet away.

GregD

I see the exact opposite daily. Bike riders magically turn from a pedestrian use case into vehicle use case and back to pedestrian when the mood fits, and follow the laws of neither camp. I've see a bike actually stop for a stop sign maybe twice in 25 years. Not saying that's you or that drivers can't act stupid too, but there's plenty of blame to go around and cyclists seem to dispense with the traffic rules more than most, despite their added vulnerability - never understood that...

Also you should see what they'll do not to stop or put a foot down (including running lights or whatever). I thought the point was to friggin' exercise, starting from a stop is very good exercise... I'm sorry your clickety shoes are hard to clip on the "non-pedals" (or whatever excuse)....

sctanton52

I am kinda with Greg on this one. I do share the road, and I do follow the rules. I also find bicyclers want it their way a lot. I do give them the 1m rule, or more whenever possible. If they have the right of way they get it, but they often do not yield the right of way to me, when I have it, I agree they switch over to the pedestrian mode when its suits them. In those cases I switch to my Motocycle defensive style and just assume they will fully ignore me, along with my right of way. I do not want to hurt anyone and I will do what it takes to do so. I may swear a bit and make rude hand gestures, but I will not cause an accident. I live just outside of the city of Calgary, on some nice small hilly twisty country roads. My biggest complaint is the weekend and summer evening 'pack riders'. Typically young men all wearing brighly colored tight spandex outfits, I call them the 'Wannabe Lance's', Single file is a joke, 2 - 3 wide is the norm. To tell you the truth they look kinda like a gay pride parade on Bicycles. My wife and I also still ride Bicycles, have for over half a century, I even did it to work for a couple of years. Maybe from my Motorcycle time, I bicycled very-very defensively, followed the rules and I gotta admit no one has tried to kill me. I have had more close calls on my Motorcycles, for what its worth, but I think that is more a factor of the higher speeds on a Motorcycle, things happen a lot quicker at 100 kph than at 15 kph.

So I also agree with Lots Of Blame To Go Around.

Everyone try and stay safe.

Needsdecaf

Yes, I do this twice a week during a drive through a 20 MPH section.

skiahh

As with any group, it's the bad eggs that give the group a reputation. Porsche drivers, Corvette drivers... and cyclists.

As a cyclist, I get really annoyed when cyclists just do whatever, rather than following the rules of the road. And then whine about how they have every right to the road, just like cars. OK, sure... I've rolled stop signs, but who here is going to say they haven't and don't do that in their cars? But I don't ride on sidewalks, use crosswalks or fail to yield the right of way when it belongs to someone else. Yes, we're out there. You don't see us, because we don't stand out. It's the folks who don't follow the rules who stand out and give us a bad name, so as has been said about 'Vettes and Porsche drivers in this thread: don't judge all cyclists by the jerks you run into out there!

rk-d

Personally, I would follow the rules of the road, as if I was any other motorized vehicle. Stop at stoplights, mind my lane, signal turns. Accordingly, a cyclist should be entitled to the same courtesy in return. It's not that complicated. A lot of people think that bikes belong on the sidewalk (which is both illegal and stupid) and get the red mist when they see a cyclist on "their" road.

I got tired of the BS and gave up road cycling. I stick to mountain biking nowadays. Much more peaceful.

fast1

With so many distracted drivers, I believe you made a prudent choice.

Didn't mean to imply otherwise. My experience is that the vast majority of Porsche drivers take a great deal of pride in their driving, and that includes being courteous to pedestrians and cyclists.

skiahh

Same here.

I only ride on the road if I need a long training ride now and can't find a suitable off road route.

duxsi

Ha.. In November I got screamed at for doing 25 in a 25 mile zone.
1st gear @ 25mph + PSE = 70mph..

Jay-S

So what's the math for a Prius?

70mph + silence = 35mph?

skiahh

A Prius can go 70 mph??

(Actually, that's completely tongue in cheek. I see Prius' raging as fast as their chipmunks can propel them around here. Wonder what that does to their mileage with that tiny engine pushing those things at 80+?)