hockeylife

Appreciate pricing thoughts on this car:

2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S
Division: PCNA VIN: WP0AB2A94HS124103 Print

Prod Month: 12/2016 Commission #: 0
Year: 2017 Model: 911 Carrera S
Option Description Price
BASE 911 Carrera S 103,400.00
176 Sport Exhaust System 2,950.00
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) 3,200.00
439 20" 911 Turbo Wheels 2,370.00
446 Wheel center caps with colored Porsche Crest 185.00
457 Lane Change Assist (LCA) 850.00
489 Multifunction and Heated Steering Wheel 470.00
497 Control Code for Model Designation 0.00
581 Luggage net in passenger footwell 0.00
583 Smoking package 0.00
653 Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof in Glass 1,990.00
970 Two-tone leather interior 0.00
9VL BOSE® Surround Sound System 1,590.00
BM Leather Interior in Black/Bordeaux Red 4,280.00
CGU Headlight Cleaning System Covers in Deviated Exterior Color 295.00
CWJ PORSCHE Logo and Model Designation Painted 595.00
EKJ Brushed Aluminum Interior Package i.c.w. Leather Interior 965.00
P06 Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package 2,320.00
P3E Premium Package Plus i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way) 3,970.00
QR5 Sport Chrono Package 2,605.00
U2 GT Silver Metallic 710.00
XSC Porsche Crest on headrests 285.00
XSH Seat belts in Silver Grey 540.00
Total Options 30,170.00
Total Charges 1,050.00
Total Order 134,620.00

Asking $126,900

hockeylife

Oh, forgot....800 miles.

Gary JR

What are the miles?

freeman727

Thanks for the advice. The inservice date was 1/10/17. 9000 miles seems like a lot for 3 months. It must have been a service loaner car. People probably drove it like they stole it. I'll probably have to get an independent PPI if I go for it.

Gary JR

You can get 5% off on brand new!

NNN Investment

I would definitely get it CPO and negotiate the price. Typically 2-3 yr old vehicles have 9k mileage.

freeman727

I think that low is for garage queen cars. I intend to make mine a DD, although my commute is only 1.5 miles each way .

AlBinVA

In January, I purchased a CPO 2017 with 1,700 miles, 5.5 years of warranty with sticker of $128.5K at 15% off MSRP.

hockeylife

Hi, thanks for feedback. Seems 5-7% discount at new is possible, so for used at close to same doesn't make sense. Dealer would seem to arrive at same conclusion, but i guess you can ask. So for used, do you think 15-20% reasonable/likely to counter?

AlBinVA

The ideal use of an offer is to hopefully find bottom, or close to it. If you remove emotion and treat it as a business transaction, it helps. It is simply a business transaction to the dealer. Private party sales is a different story.

My opinion would be to set a price (in your own mind) that you do not want to exceed. Make an offer below that price with room to move up. You can not lower your initial offer unless you get pissed, but now you have made it emotional.

If you do not get a counter, then you are in a position where you negotiate with yourself or move on. If you get a counter, you have their interest and gauge your next offer accordingly. The ideal situation is where you place yourself in a position (mentally) to walk whenever you want to remove yourself from the deal.

Everyone usually develops their own strategy for their own reasons but I have used the above over many transactions. Some worked, some didn't.

To your specific question, considering the time of year, the market and availability and what I believe to be the impact of a one year depreciation estimate, 15% to 17% should be a fair starting point. If this car is not a CPO and it is important to you, I believe the cost to the dealer is $3k to $3.5k so you will need to factor that into your offer scenario.

Best of luck

freeman727

I am getting my loan through from PenFed. The following vehicle is the one I've settle on:

Vehicle data
Displacement:3 l
Power Output:420 HP
Drivetrain:4-WD
Transmission:Automatic
Fuel:Gas
Exterior Color:White
Vehicle Ident Number:WP0AB2A9XHS123389
Interior Finish:Standard Interior in Agate Grey
Mileage:5,801 m
Model year:2017
Price:$ 113,974
Options:
20" Carrera Sport Wheels
Bose® Surround Sound System
Electric Slide/Tilt Sunroof
Heated Multifunction Steering Wheel
Instrument Dials in Black
LED Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System Plus (PDLS+)
Lane Change Assist (LCA)
Luggage Net in Passenger Footwell
Porsche Crest on Headrests
Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
Power Sport Seats (14-way) with Memory Package
Premium Package Plus i.c.w. Power Sport Seats (14-way)
Side Skirts Painted
Smoking Package
Sport Package
Wheel Center Caps with Colored Porsche Crest

At this price it will be hard to negotiate. They quoted me $1300 for enclosed shipping.

bmedude

Very sweet build!

AlBinVA

At this price it will be hard to negotiate. They quoted me $1300 for enclosed shipping.

Does it come with CPO? If not, ask them to throw it in. Worth a try.

Good luck and nice build.

freeman727

Yes it is CPO'd

coopmike

I talked to them last week when it was $1k higher and not a CPO. Submitted an offer to get it at $111,750 as a CPO. They politely told me "I understand if you need to go elsewhere" and reminded me it wasn't a CPO. Noticed today that they had just CPO'ed it in the last day or two. My HFS.2 senses are spot on. You'll love it and good price at 15.x% off MSRP. I was reconsidering it at your price with CPO but saw this.

I recently drove a '14 C2S and then jumped directly into a '17 C2.... left zero doubt which model I want. This weekend I will be driving a '17 C2 and C2S back to back to make my final choice.

Ask for pics of the PPF ... I was told "x-Pel clear coating done to the font bumper and hood when it was purchased new."