Got rear ended today...
05-12-2016 | 12:19 AM
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05-12-2016 | 12:38 AM
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Car is with a Bay Area Porsche Dealer - initial estimate (they haven't even taken off the bumper) is circa $30k - am sure there will be more damage lurking underneath
Some advice wanted - stick with them for repair (they have their own on site body shop) or send to one of the local Porche Certified Approved Collision Centers?
Just a bit confused!
Some advice wanted - stick with them for repair (they have their own on site body shop) or send to one of the local Porche Certified Approved Collision Centers?
Just a bit confused!
05-12-2016 | 01:29 AM
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Picked up my (Perfect) CPO C2S Cab 7 weeks ago in LA, beautiful drive home to SF via Ojai etc , great car so far, until this morning..
Lady behind me drove into me circa 40mph, no airbag deployment, seatbelt pretensioners activated though.
See glass pic for what happens when your roll over safety activates - glass flew into front of car - really hoping this is totalled, sports exhaust etc destroyed and panels all seem to be buckled :-( Engine def took the brunt of the impact
Still alive though, and a car is only an inanimate object - won't feel the same if it is just repaired though... beginning to wish I had leased it, but c'est la vie, at least I am alive and able to moan about it.
Lady behind me drove into me circa 40mph, no airbag deployment, seatbelt pretensioners activated though.
See glass pic for what happens when your roll over safety activates - glass flew into front of car - really hoping this is totalled, sports exhaust etc destroyed and panels all seem to be buckled :-( Engine def took the brunt of the impact
Still alive though, and a car is only an inanimate object - won't feel the same if it is just repaired though... beginning to wish I had leased it, but c'est la vie, at least I am alive and able to moan about it.
06-06-2016 | 09:36 PM
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well my revised damage estimate is $50k ...
No structural/frame damage - just a few very very expensive parts inc new cabrio roof...so annoyed that not a total loss :-(
I better get a darn good diminished value check from this
I better get a darn good diminished value check from this
06-06-2016 | 11:53 PM
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06-08-2016 | 12:52 AM
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Glad you're OK!
Sorry they didn't find frame or mechanical damage - amazing really!!
DV claims can be tricky and vary by state and insurance company policy. I was able to get State Farm to pay years ago for loss of use and DV on a 993 that a woman hit hard on front quarter ($25K damage) but it took 7 months to iron out (sorry, not trying to scare you). You will likely want to get estimates from several dealers to buy back the car to document DV.
Be wary of little tricks like them sending you a "settlement check" (for less than loss +DV) that has small print where you sign claiming that, by endorsing, you waive all future claims from them - yes that really happened. Slime *****.
Not sure if you need it - but you could consider a company like this that specializes in appraisals for DV http://www.diminishedvalueca.com/
Good luck!
Sorry they didn't find frame or mechanical damage - amazing really!!
DV claims can be tricky and vary by state and insurance company policy. I was able to get State Farm to pay years ago for loss of use and DV on a 993 that a woman hit hard on front quarter ($25K damage) but it took 7 months to iron out (sorry, not trying to scare you). You will likely want to get estimates from several dealers to buy back the car to document DV.
Be wary of little tricks like them sending you a "settlement check" (for less than loss +DV) that has small print where you sign claiming that, by endorsing, you waive all future claims from them - yes that really happened. Slime *****.
Not sure if you need it - but you could consider a company like this that specializes in appraisals for DV http://www.diminishedvalueca.com/
Good luck!
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07-20-2016 | 10:31 PM
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Update on the car/repair
Just got the car back on Monday after being in repair since May 4th...
Had such high hopes - sadly came crashing down on collection and over last 2 days...
Went to collect vehicle and this is what I found (oh by the way this was at a Porsche Certified Shop.....)
Drivers side air vent loose (I found this myself!) Apparently a broken clip - how this was not detected during 3 assessors looking at it plus the, ahem, 'quality check' I do not know - part re ordered apparently and awaiting fitment
Still several weeks to go until passengers side full leather door trim replacement arrives..yes, several weeks
They hadn't put stone guards on - wish they'd told me all this before I went to collect after being told it was ready - apparently they got ones that 'didn't stick' and were waiting replacements - due in tomorrow
Cabriolet top (new) rattles beyond belief - absolutely horrendous from back, front and sides. I don't even think it is properly sealed - the shop told me to avoid using the top as long as possible as it is new...erm....it is a convertible - they said apparently the fabric needs to stretch
Exhaust (PSE) does not sound right at all - is there any way I can have someone check if is still working post repair? No noticeable sound difference on vs off, also, it rattles too arrggggghh
Rear driver's side window doesn't go down flush (rests proud of the seal) - I had to point this out myself (they said no one saw this on inspection) I noticed the shop had a 991 Turbo Cab, and made them drop the top/windows to show them that they should be flush - appalling quality work so far....
Seals don't look right on the passengers side window between front and rear
Today, driving home on first 'proper' drive, cooling system fault warning pops on- I call certified body shop and their response is 'the odd thing is about this error is that the cooling system was not touched during our repair process - let us know if you want us to take a look at it' - pretty sure after 50k of repairs primarily to rear of car that this is connected.......
Seriously think this is the start of a litany of errors/faults and only had the car back less than 48 hrs
Absolutely shockingly bad service from the Certified Body Shop - now in comms with Geico about getting this sorted out
Where I am really confused is - is my CPO still valid? Are the problems covered under that, or manufacturers warranty, or do I get another Porsche Certified Shop to take the car and look at it?
Had such high hopes - sadly came crashing down on collection and over last 2 days...
Went to collect vehicle and this is what I found (oh by the way this was at a Porsche Certified Shop.....)
Drivers side air vent loose (I found this myself!) Apparently a broken clip - how this was not detected during 3 assessors looking at it plus the, ahem, 'quality check' I do not know - part re ordered apparently and awaiting fitment
Still several weeks to go until passengers side full leather door trim replacement arrives..yes, several weeks
They hadn't put stone guards on - wish they'd told me all this before I went to collect after being told it was ready - apparently they got ones that 'didn't stick' and were waiting replacements - due in tomorrow
Cabriolet top (new) rattles beyond belief - absolutely horrendous from back, front and sides. I don't even think it is properly sealed - the shop told me to avoid using the top as long as possible as it is new...erm....it is a convertible - they said apparently the fabric needs to stretch
Exhaust (PSE) does not sound right at all - is there any way I can have someone check if is still working post repair? No noticeable sound difference on vs off, also, it rattles too arrggggghh
Rear driver's side window doesn't go down flush (rests proud of the seal) - I had to point this out myself (they said no one saw this on inspection) I noticed the shop had a 991 Turbo Cab, and made them drop the top/windows to show them that they should be flush - appalling quality work so far....
Seals don't look right on the passengers side window between front and rear
Today, driving home on first 'proper' drive, cooling system fault warning pops on- I call certified body shop and their response is 'the odd thing is about this error is that the cooling system was not touched during our repair process - let us know if you want us to take a look at it' - pretty sure after 50k of repairs primarily to rear of car that this is connected.......
Seriously think this is the start of a litany of errors/faults and only had the car back less than 48 hrs
Absolutely shockingly bad service from the Certified Body Shop - now in comms with Geico about getting this sorted out
Where I am really confused is - is my CPO still valid? Are the problems covered under that, or manufacturers warranty, or do I get another Porsche Certified Shop to take the car and look at it?
Last edited by MrGPD; 07-20-2016 at 10:45 PM. Reason: Wanted to add info
07-21-2016 | 12:11 AM
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I went through a similar situation with a Audi A6 2 years ago.
Took my car to the "best" body shop and only Audi certified one and they did a total crap job. Body panels were off, they damaged interior parts and I had rattles. Needless to say I took a hard hit and sold it.. I was at fault so I paid dearly.. You need to fight for at least 20k in diminished value.. then just dump it.
Car will never be right again..
My mom got rear ended in her CLS, 9k repair and she got a check for 10k in diminished value.
Took my car to the "best" body shop and only Audi certified one and they did a total crap job. Body panels were off, they damaged interior parts and I had rattles. Needless to say I took a hard hit and sold it.. I was at fault so I paid dearly.. You need to fight for at least 20k in diminished value.. then just dump it.
Car will never be right again..
My mom got rear ended in her CLS, 9k repair and she got a check for 10k in diminished value.
Just got the car back on Monday after being in repair since May 4th...
Had such high hopes - sadly came crashing down on collection and over last 2 days...
Went to collect vehicle and this is what I found (oh by the way this was at a Porsche Certified Shop.....)
Drivers side air vent loose (I found this myself!) Apparently a broken clip - how this was not detected during 3 assessors looking at it plus the, ahem, 'quality check' I do not know - part re ordered apparently and awaiting fitment
Still several weeks to go until passengers side full leather door trim replacement arrives..yes, several weeks
They hadn't put stone guards on - wish they'd told me all this before I went to collect after being told it was ready - apparently they got ones that 'didn't stick' and were waiting replacements - due in tomorrow
Cabriolet top (new) rattles beyond belief - absolutely horrendous from back, front and sides. I don't even think it is properly sealed - the shop told me to avoid using the top as long as possible as it is new...erm....it is a convertible - they said apparently the fabric needs to stretch
Exhaust (PSE) does not sound right at all - is there any way I can have someone check if is still working post repair? No noticeable sound difference on vs off, also, it rattles too arrggggghh
Rear driver's side window doesn't go down flush (rests proud of the seal) - I had to point this out myself (they said no one saw this on inspection) I noticed the shop had a 991 Turbo Cab, and made them drop the top/windows to show them that they should be flush - appalling quality work so far....
Seals don't look right on the passengers side window between front and rear
Today, driving home on first 'proper' drive, cooling system fault warning pops on- I call certified body shop and their response is 'the odd thing is about this error is that the cooling system was not touched during our repair process - let us know if you want us to take a look at it' - pretty sure after 50k of repairs primarily to rear of car that this is connected.......
Seriously think this is the start of a litany of errors/faults and only had the car back less than 48 hrs
Absolutely shockingly bad service from the Certified Body Shop - now in comms with Geico about getting this sorted out
Where I am really confused is - is my CPO still valid? Are the problems covered under that, or manufacturers warranty, or do I get another Porsche Certified Shop to take the car and look at it?
Had such high hopes - sadly came crashing down on collection and over last 2 days...
Went to collect vehicle and this is what I found (oh by the way this was at a Porsche Certified Shop.....)
Drivers side air vent loose (I found this myself!) Apparently a broken clip - how this was not detected during 3 assessors looking at it plus the, ahem, 'quality check' I do not know - part re ordered apparently and awaiting fitment
Still several weeks to go until passengers side full leather door trim replacement arrives..yes, several weeks
They hadn't put stone guards on - wish they'd told me all this before I went to collect after being told it was ready - apparently they got ones that 'didn't stick' and were waiting replacements - due in tomorrow
Cabriolet top (new) rattles beyond belief - absolutely horrendous from back, front and sides. I don't even think it is properly sealed - the shop told me to avoid using the top as long as possible as it is new...erm....it is a convertible - they said apparently the fabric needs to stretch
Exhaust (PSE) does not sound right at all - is there any way I can have someone check if is still working post repair? No noticeable sound difference on vs off, also, it rattles too arrggggghh
Rear driver's side window doesn't go down flush (rests proud of the seal) - I had to point this out myself (they said no one saw this on inspection) I noticed the shop had a 991 Turbo Cab, and made them drop the top/windows to show them that they should be flush - appalling quality work so far....
Seals don't look right on the passengers side window between front and rear
Today, driving home on first 'proper' drive, cooling system fault warning pops on- I call certified body shop and their response is 'the odd thing is about this error is that the cooling system was not touched during our repair process - let us know if you want us to take a look at it' - pretty sure after 50k of repairs primarily to rear of car that this is connected.......
Seriously think this is the start of a litany of errors/faults and only had the car back less than 48 hrs
Absolutely shockingly bad service from the Certified Body Shop - now in comms with Geico about getting this sorted out
Where I am really confused is - is my CPO still valid? Are the problems covered under that, or manufacturers warranty, or do I get another Porsche Certified Shop to take the car and look at it?