Some guys don't get it
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I really really wanted to love the problem-free Japanese cars. They were all ok, just not special. in the end, once I went German, which took a while due to stigma of being unreliable, I don't see myself going back. And yes, German cars are less reliable than Japanese, even in my limited experience (8 jap cars and 3 germans so far - and two swedes - which are worse than germans but which I would happily have kept buying if GM didn't kill them).
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The "don't get it folks" never see Porsche ownership as anything other than flaunting extravagance -- in my experience.
By the way, as an aside, I have a brother 13 years my senior, who is a vette guy so we have our fun debates and thoroughly enjoy each other's cars. I gave him a Porsche hat and told him how happy it would make me to picture him driving his vette with a Porsche hat on. He loves the hat and wears it continually, even while driving his vette. It does make me happy.
By the way, as an aside, I have a brother 13 years my senior, who is a vette guy so we have our fun debates and thoroughly enjoy each other's cars. I gave him a Porsche hat and told him how happy it would make me to picture him driving his vette with a Porsche hat on. He loves the hat and wears it continually, even while driving his vette. It does make me happy.
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Your friend just isn't a 'car guy'...and it's ok
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It all depends on how much your eyes light up when things get fast and the scenery starts blurring
The sales guy on my 991 test drive said some people get it and some don't. Coming from very fast motorcycles, my test drive in a 911 was to see if the car was worth it in terms of performance and excitement compared to a bike. My first trip around a long onramp gave me my answer. Yes! Acceleration not quite the same as a bike, but the cornering was awesome. So I started the test drive kind of skeptical, but finished it knowing I must have one of these cars! It has NOTHING to do with showing off and everything to do with enjoying a car made to go fast!
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I love my 991 and I also struggle with 'getting it' sometimes. Regardless of how big the smile is when I drive my 991, it is not a logical thing to do to spend $100k on a car ... it's an emotional thing to do. So why did I buy one? I've always loved 911's and I was at a point that I could spend the money and not be hurting from the purchase.
Yes, once in a while I still struggle driving such an expensive car, but hey ... some people have 3 children. Not that I want to compare children to a car, but pure financially, a 911 is cheap compared to having a child.
Yes, once in a while I still struggle driving such an expensive car, but hey ... some people have 3 children. Not that I want to compare children to a car, but pure financially, a 911 is cheap compared to having a child.
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1. A lot of guys buy 911s to show off. Including those on this site, regardless of what they might tell you.
2. Some people don't care one bit about cars, and thats fine. I don't care one bit about vintage guitars and some people would have a heart attack if they were able to play a les paul or whatever.
3. I think there are plenty of people that get that 911s are fun, and yet still don't want to spend the money. $100k for a car is still a ton of money.
4. Who cares? I stopped worrying long ago about trying to explain my hobbies to people who don't share them. Its pointless and we just move on to more enjoyable topics.
2. Some people don't care one bit about cars, and thats fine. I don't care one bit about vintage guitars and some people would have a heart attack if they were able to play a les paul or whatever.
3. I think there are plenty of people that get that 911s are fun, and yet still don't want to spend the money. $100k for a car is still a ton of money.
4. Who cares? I stopped worrying long ago about trying to explain my hobbies to people who don't share them. Its pointless and we just move on to more enjoyable topics.
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It's great to hear everyone's philosophy!
While we all seem to be pretty much in the same camp, we're also all very different... Our common interest in one of the world's finest automobiles makes for interesting reading...
While we all seem to be pretty much in the same camp, we're also all very different... Our common interest in one of the world's finest automobiles makes for interesting reading...
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I'll add one more comment. I consider myself a "car guy" and appreciate most cars. However, I'll admit I don't understand some cars like a MB G-wagon for $150K. So even within the car circle there are some outliers that even baffle me. Apologies to G-wagon owners.
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showing off in a 911 is an interesting concept given the only people who seem to get excited by my car are middle aged men and some children...not exactly who I would like to impress.
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Before I got my first 911, I wondered about that stigma. I'm not the guy that drives it to look good. Then again, it's never dirty either, so I wonder what that means. Anyway, my good friend said, "Porsche isn't an exotic. It's a working-man's sports car." I didn't agree, but didn't argue. In the world of "Platinum" pickup trucks, he was probably right.
Nothing I've driven handles like it. It gets better when pushed, not worse. It's just so capable. I hope to enjoy one for a long time.
Nothing I've driven handles like it. It gets better when pushed, not worse. It's just so capable. I hope to enjoy one for a long time.
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Plenty of people don't understand other people's passions or hobbies. There's a guy at work who sees food as solely nutrition and calories, and would be perfectly content eating a bowl of beige mush. He doesn't get foodies. There are people who don't understand why anyone would want any watch more expensive than a G-Shock when they all just tell time. And then there are people who see cars merely as appliances to move people and things between places. All these people are wrong, but that's okay, it just means more for me.
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Every time my ex would see a man in a sports car, she would glibly say "Midlife crisis".
I tried to explain to her that the man driving the car probably married right out of college, worked to buy and furnish the house his wife wanted and needed for their family. He saved and put their children through college, while putting away for retirement. That car may represent the one single thing he has done solely for his enjoyment, as a result of being an empty nester with the kids through school.
Some how, on the one hand she didn't get it but on the other always asked for a $10,000 Hermes Kelly purse, which I'm glad I never bought for her.
I tried to explain to her that the man driving the car probably married right out of college, worked to buy and furnish the house his wife wanted and needed for their family. He saved and put their children through college, while putting away for retirement. That car may represent the one single thing he has done solely for his enjoyment, as a result of being an empty nester with the kids through school.
Some how, on the one hand she didn't get it but on the other always asked for a $10,000 Hermes Kelly purse, which I'm glad I never bought for her.
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I tried to explain to her that the man driving the car probably married right out of college, worked to buy and furnish the house his wife wanted and needed for their family. He saved and put their children through college, while putting away for retirement. That car may represent the one single thing he has done solely for his enjoyment, as a result of being an empty nester with the kids through school.
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