Powereng

Jimbo, just curious were you noticed it? Low, mid or high range? Most everyone who has answered this don't seem to think so and the numbers posted by many testers only show minimal gains.

jimbo1111

Feel is subjective topic because the S, GTS and GT3 all have the same torque. But to answer your question I felt the greatest difference over 6500 rpm. Overall the motor felt a bit more nimble even in the lower rpm. Most definitely noticable up top. The S and GTS are geared alike and will almost feel identical. The GT3 gearing is much more robust because it has close ratio gearing without an overdrive making it feel faster with the shorter gearing. This is the real reason why it's only offered in PDK. S and GTS have street gearing for fuel economy.
What counts here is actual distance covered over time. In one mile the GTS will probably have quite a distance on a S. 0 to 200 km it's about a full second faster. I've seen 11.8 quarter mile on a Road and Track mag. Where the best S time I've seen is 12.1.

elitex

There's a video on the other Porsche forum, specifically on the Cayman sub-forum. There's a video showing side by side race between Cayman s PDK and Cayman GTS PDK. Cayman GTS only has 15 more HP and it's walking away.

I'd like to see a side by side video of C2S and GTS. That'll be interesting.

found the video

Archimedes

That video is nonsense. Whoever was driving that CS didn't know what they were doing. Those cars are near identical in the quarter mile and the GTS will not walk away like that.

77tony

Excerpt from Motor Trend Magazine 2014: "the 911 50 is no slouch. Sixty miles per hour happens in 3.9 seconds, while the quarter-mile takes 12.2 seconds at 115.4 mph. For some contrast, the first 991 Carrera S we tested hit 60 mph in 3.7 seconds and ran the quarter in 12.0 at 117.1 mph. Same story with our figure eight, where the 50th Anniversary took 24.3 seconds -- a very good time -- and the regular 911 C2S needed only 24.1 seconds.
But… you thought I said the 50th Anniversary has 30 additional horsepower? I did, and though there's about a 50-pound weight penalty in the more powerful version, I have no idea why it's not as fleet. Maybe our test car wasn't in perfect shape? Maybe the cars on the 991 launch were a bit juiced? I'll just say this: You won't notice 2/10s of a second on the street, but if you're concerned about such things, get the GT3 or the Turbo. If you want Goldilocks, however -- if you want the best balance, the best of breed, and in my opinion, the best of brand -- you'll want this car." Full article: http://www.motortrend.com/cars/2014/porsche/911/

Sharm

it appears that the 991 50 weighs more than the S, but the GTS weighs less, am I right??

GT325

My former 2012.5 C2S PDK seemed way faster than my current 991 C2 GTS MT. PDK obviously major factor. Other factors the 2012.5 had 25K miles. The car engine REALLY opened up after 15K miles or so. Maybe some manufacturing variation between engines? Anyways I don't really feel a difference between the engines although I certainly do HEAR a difference. My 2012.5 did not have PSE or SC.

77tony

I didn't see anything regarding a GTS. As quoted above: "there's about a 50-pound weight penalty in the more powerful version" T

MKW

in that case, I would just buy a used 991.1 Turbo S vs a new 991.2 C2S or C4S...a CPO 2014 Turbo S will be cheaper , faster and essentially the same look inside and out and way more exclusive as well as much further down the depreciation curve!

997s07

Every 911 enthusiast I talked to who owed the cars in the 80s and 70s spoke about a lack of low end torque 911 engines, and how they had to wind up the engine to get the car through its paces. Nowadays the 911 has a bunch more torque, but people want more low end torque? Aren't there cars out there with more torque in the low end better suited for that 10-40mph feel on the street?

reuben991

That's a great point i.e. if you're thinking of a new 991.2 you should probably cross shop a CPO 991.1 Turbo or Turbo S

stratocaster69

Maybe so, but is 2/10s of a second that noticeable. The 991 GTS is like 3.8 secs with PDK and the new model is like 3.6 I think, from 0-100 KPH. Its on their site what they post. But the earlier car I believe has 1mph better top end, good for the Autobahn lol

But 2 /10s of a second does to me not seem awesome when you give up that sound of the NA motor and the great looks. Its a two way street. Whatever trips a persons trigger. I guess what the person feels they like best, as each car serves its purpose.

997s07

You bet. I bought the 3.4 base car - after testing all the 991 cars. Loved the tinny and high pitched exhaust note and the revving madness of the engine.

stratocaster69

Yes, sorry I misread the prior post when you said aren't there cars out there with low end torque etc. I was thinking you were meaning the 991.2 model. I cant multitask well. Sorry bout that (:

997s07

No worries. We are in the same camp.