Carerra 991 GTS, does the power seem much over the S version
11-01-2015, 01:26 AM
#16
The S hits higher torque at lower rpm than the powerkit, I think getawayer's review of the gts he explains this pretty well. Chk it out:
' 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Manual (991) ' Test Drive & Review - TheGetawayer - YouTube
Skip to 9:00 to get to the meaty part, but worth watching the whole thing. At ~10:15 he talks about peak torque in S, GTS, and GT3.
' 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS Manual (991) ' Test Drive & Review - TheGetawayer - YouTube
Skip to 9:00 to get to the meaty part, but worth watching the whole thing. At ~10:15 he talks about peak torque in S, GTS, and GT3.
11-01-2015, 10:01 AM
#17
Short of being on a race track or on I-90 in Montana/ND how can you feel the extra 7% power? The 400hp in the S is way beyond 95% of Porsche owners capability to handle it. The 430 in the X51/GTS is a guy thing (which is fine) 
11-01-2015, 10:35 AM
#18
A simple but realistic way to understand power is to see that power is time (e.g. RPMinute) dependent. Torque isn't. So you're getting more "torques" per minute when the RPM goes up. The engine cannot breathe well at higher RPM so it needs help with valves, intake air pressure frequencies and even exhaust pressure frequencies. Of course it's more complicated than that, but that's the gist of it.
You want to feel the GTS? You better rev it.
You want to feel the GTS? You better rev it.
11-01-2015, 10:49 AM
#19
I could care less but for interest. I would like to see a 1/4 mile time between the GTS and the Carrera S and a one mile time. GTS shows a tick faster 0-60 and a bit higher mph. But would still be interesting just to see.
As mentioned earlier. Coming from many faster cars. Its not about speed for me. Its the whole package that this car offers. But nonetheless, I would like to see a little race lol I actually drive nice and like the cruise mode.
As mentioned earlier. Coming from many faster cars. Its not about speed for me. Its the whole package that this car offers. But nonetheless, I would like to see a little race lol I actually drive nice and like the cruise mode.
11-01-2015, 12:44 PM
#21
Burning Brakes
To me the power in the GTS felt like it came on more smoothly. The S felt like it did less under 4,000 then kicked, the GTS felt powerful all the way through. I do like torque, but I also really like the immediate throttle response of an NA engine. I ended up putting an exhaust and a tune on my old Boxster to get both things together and it worked great - was extraordinarily aggressive right off the line. I plan to do the same to my GTS when the time is right.
11-01-2015, 01:18 PM
#22
The GTS just does not have any substantial difference except some bragging rights that soon generally go away once put side by side with the S. Many of the better drivers on this form can get a base 911 around a track faster than some others with the best 911. Driving instruction will get all these cars to go faster around a track more than the 30 extra HP.
11-01-2015, 01:44 PM
#25
Better for torque maybe 2/10s of a second I agree but not better for sound. It will never attain that mark. I will take the sound any day over that hair of torque. If I wanted real torque I would look at a 911 Turbo. But to each their own and just saying. They are all nice
11-01-2015, 01:46 PM
#26
Have to agree with Chris, I had a chance to have both on a track back to back and did not notice any great "oh my god" experiance. The GT3 that we also ran was much quicker than either the S or GTS.
The GTS just does not have any substantial difference except some bragging rights that soon generally go away once put side by side with the S. Many of the better drivers on this form can get a base 911 around a track faster than some others with the best 911. Driving instruction will get all these cars to go faster around a track more than the 30 extra HP.
The GTS just does not have any substantial difference except some bragging rights that soon generally go away once put side by side with the S. Many of the better drivers on this form can get a base 911 around a track faster than some others with the best 911. Driving instruction will get all these cars to go faster around a track more than the 30 extra HP.
11-02-2015, 09:32 PM
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So my take on this is that when you buy your first Porsche it feels fast. Then you get used to that and you want it to be faster so you buy a better one. Then that feels so-so as well. And so it goes on.
The problem with turbo engines for me is that torque comes on quickly at say 1500-2000 rpm so it feels really flat below that. Our brains do weird things to the signals they receive, and in traffic it's amazing how much time you spend with really low revs on board. Slap a PDK in auto and watch the tach. That's how they get the mileage figures.
Conversely a NA engine feels stronger really low in the revs because the torque curve is more linear and climbs evenly. Slap a manual 911 in 3rd at 1200 rpm, floor the throttle and feel the car haul itself out of the ditch and keep on going, and going, and going. Magic.
The problem with turbo engines for me is that torque comes on quickly at say 1500-2000 rpm so it feels really flat below that. Our brains do weird things to the signals they receive, and in traffic it's amazing how much time you spend with really low revs on board. Slap a PDK in auto and watch the tach. That's how they get the mileage figures.
Conversely a NA engine feels stronger really low in the revs because the torque curve is more linear and climbs evenly. Slap a manual 911 in 3rd at 1200 rpm, floor the throttle and feel the car haul itself out of the ditch and keep on going, and going, and going. Magic.
11-02-2015, 10:32 PM
#30
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Carerra 991 GTS, does the power seem much over the S version
To the OP. Its definitely noticeable. Its not just a software update and exhaust but real engine internal hardware.